Project Chanology / Anonymous vs. Scientology IRL showdown in LA

Project Chanology / Anonymous vs. Scientology / Los Angeles Feb 10

Project Chanology / Anonymous vs. Scientology / Los Angeles Feb 10

Since I first posted about Anonymous Vs. Scientology I’ve been following it rather closely which you’ve probably noticed. When the Feb 10th call to action I knew things were getting interesting. Then Newsweek picked up the story and photos started trickling in from other protests around the world this morning. I’ve been following the coordination efforts and planning to attend the protest today to take photos and see how many people would actually show up. In fact when I posted asking how many people you all thought might be there the response seemed to imply that most people thought no one would really show up. As Mack posted this morning that was pretty far off, and from my count over 300 people were there. I got there a little earlier and stayed later and have a bit of a different take on the whole thing that he did. I also took a ton of photos. All that after the jump.

Project Chanology / Anonymous vs. Scientology / Los Angeles Feb 10

Project Chanology / Anonymous vs. Scientology / Los Angeles Feb 10

Mack noted that he saw “No sign of an opposing army of blue-clad Scientologists with video cameras” however in the few hours I was there I definitely did. There were security guards threatening protesters saying things like “you are not allowed to be here, you’ll be arrested if you don’t leave” of course the LAPD was there and no arrests were made as the protest was completely legal and peaceful. And of course there was no shortage of documentation on the Scientologist’s part as well.

I watched this guard tell protesters standing on public property that they were trespassing and needed to leave the area:
Project Chanology / Anonymous vs. Scientology / Los Angeles Feb 10

This guy filmed me, as you can see, and when I went up to him and identified myself as press and asked him how useful the footage he was getting might be since all the protesters were wearing masks he wouldn’t answer me, just kept filming:
Project Chanology / Anonymous vs. Scientology / Los Angeles Feb 10

Worst disguise of the day award goes to the (not so hidden) cameras inside this fake ice truck:
Project Chanology / Anonymous vs. Scientology / Los Angeles Feb 10

As soon as people started taking photos of the truck it left, but really you’d think that with Hollywood being so close they could have called in a prop guy to hide that a little better.

There were also people in cars, some with Scientology bumper stickers, driving around the block repeatedly with cameras filming everyone, especially the people without masks.

Project Chanology / Anonymous vs. Scientology / Los Angeles Feb 10

A lot of people had signs with one of the numerous L. Ron Hubbard quote’s about how if someone wanted to really get rich, they should invent a religion. These of course predate the founding of the Church of Scientology.
Project Chanology / Anonymous vs. Scientology / Los Angeles Feb 10

Most of the protesters seemed to be talking about one of several high profile situations where the church has reacted against people trying to leave their organization or spoken publicly against them, or asking if the Scientology “Tech” can really save the world, why the church charges such high fees for it. There also seemed to be some people promoting Free Zone Scientology that is using the exact same teachings of the Church of Scientology, but without the membership fees. For the most part the protesters seemed to be taking it all rather light heartedly. My entire flickr set of photos I took can be found here, but here’s a few more as well.

Project Chanology / Anonymous vs. Scientology / Los Angeles Feb 10

Project Chanology / Anonymous vs. Scientology / Los Angeles Feb 10

Project Chanology / Anonymous vs. Scientology / Los Angeles Feb 10

Project Chanology / Anonymous vs. Scientology / Los Angeles Feb 10

Project Chanology / Anonymous vs. Scientology / Los Angeles Feb 10

40 Replies to “Project Chanology / Anonymous vs. Scientology IRL showdown in LA”

  1. Excellent coverage, Sean.

    As I mentioned, I was there for just a short period – looks like you saw plenty of “monitoring” activities from the blue side of the line as well as the more honest and obvious protest activities. The ice truck is a total hoot.

    Wondering if there’s now a file on you (me? b.la?) somewhere in the bowels of the big blue building.

  2. For the record, when I’ve written about Scientology here in the past, IPs from the COS have clicked over to my personal site. So, yes, you can bet someone from the COS is Googling all of our names, just like we’d Google their’s.

  3. I don’t really think Scientology is that different from any other religion — money money more money. I’d like to see the Anonymous group go protest a Catholic Church. So far I haven’t seen any cases of scientologists molesting any kids.

    Now that would be something.

  4. I could be totally snarky, but I’ll let it slide. Do you think this has made us all a target of CoS? I’ll up my meds and sit back and watch it unfold.

  5. I don’t really think Scientology is that different from any other religion — money money more money. I’d like to see the Anonymous group go protest a Catholic Church. So far I haven’t seen any cases of scientologists molesting any kids.

    Now that would be something.

    POSTED BY: KATHY AT FEBRUARY 10, 2008 05:47 PM”

    Not different? Does the Catholic church have its own special ops department that spies on people and sues and libels them? Does the Catholic church scare people so much that they are afraid of letting their faces be shown for fear of direct retribution from the Church via ex CIA members? Not so much.

  6. I just noticed that the logo for anonymous was also a guy with a mask holding his hands up! Haha, I feel stupid for just now noticing that. Pretty cool though.

    Aren’t all religions cults? I can’t wait to find out if the church actually tries to use the footage they used to sue anyone. Why are they so creepy?

    I would love to give the church of Scientology a stress test about now. I would imagine if would show a very high level of something. Come to think of it they always seem uptight…guess that just proves how well it works.

  7. yes, all “religions” have behaved badly at one point or another (or many points). The difference is this “religion” is doing it right NOW and we are here to catch it.

    But this is about more than just religion or the Co$. This is about fundamental, human liberties and the people and groups that try to erode them.

  8. dear Anonymous,

    you’re the coolest. do it again. considering the recording contingent of the Sci-ists, you obviously scored. everything we might have hoped for… -as far as demonstrating that they’re paranoid revenge freaks with A Lot to Hide.
    yeah, let’s do it again. make it fun and big; a party, AND a demonstration.

    sincerely,

    Oh

    (p.s. i do have a soft spot for how sexy those stupid Navy-fetished uniforms make those female pScichos look, but sacrifices must be made.)

  9. Did anyone run the plates on that truck? I’d be interested to know which icecream company it is really registered to. :)

  10. “Did anyone run the plates on that truck? I’d be interested to know which icecream company it is really registered to.”

    Now exactly why would you think an ICE truck would be registered to an ice cream company?

    Its exactly that kind of failure to pay attention to the details that makes the COS possible.

  11. that’s hilarious … I mean, who cares if they’re filming and photographing all the protesters – wth could they possibly do with all that footage anyway? it’s just a meaningless intimidation tactic

  12. Jen – there was stuff going on here in DC as well, and a number of other cities. See Andy Carvin’s Flickr photos:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/andycarvin/sets/72157603887726936/

    So they were recording everything going on. So what? We have civil rights that allow us to do that and so do they. There is no one-way filter when it comes to watching what people do in public. Churches, cults, normal civilians and police can all videotape each other in public.

    The CoS is a bunch of wackos in my opinion, but I want to see some evidence of them being really dangerous before we go taking them down. With no legal action against them, can we really demand their destruction? It seems like a few people legitimately protesting and a bunch of mob mentality here. Of course, I wasn’t there.

    Can someone point me to a well-informaed article about this issue that shows both sides?

    From Washington, DC,
    Your Pal Carl

  13. My Pal Carl makes some points that hint at a disingenuous, or at least poorly thought through, approach to the topic. First off just because something is legal doesn’t mean it’s justifiable or worthy behavior. Part of freedom of speech includes the protest of behaviors that, while legal, are base or conflict oriented. Portraying the acts as a ‘two way street’ when one side is taking public photos to distribute information and the other is filming people in order to intimidate them or prosecute them into not distributing information is not the same thing. The first behavior is laudable, the second deplorable, according to both my values and the basic tenets of freedom of expression. So when you try and gloss the behavior over as ‘the same thing’ you’re intentionally ignoring relevant, distinguishable aspects of both behaviors. That’s not good. But since no one was ever suggesting not allowing the CoS to record others, your admonishment doesn’t even make any sense. People were simply making fun of foolish behavior, which is both reasonable and appropriate.

    Also, and not to be rude here, but you’re not any part of any “we” I belong to nor am I out to ‘destroy’ the CoS. I protest the church because, living mere blocks from L. Ron. Hubbard Blvd. in Los Angeles, I’ve had repeated first hand experience with automeat drones scurrying out of their center anytime I walk within two hundred feet with an exposed camera. More than once I’ve been told similar lies to those mentioned above, about not being allowed to take pictures on public property and so forth, even when I wasn’t photographing the center. So my protests are based on personal experience with this “church behaving badly,” and center purely on encouraging superior from the CoS, not its overt destruction. I applaud your desire to learn more about a conflict before wading in, but since I don’t really care if you’re part of it or not, and since you’re making an appeal to being ‘open minded’, maybe you can refrain from suggesting that one side is just operating under ‘mob mentality’? That’s a pretty two-faced form of open-mindedness, I think you’ll have to admit.

    As for the protest, I’m in agreement with many others, a repeat would be hella fun. I’m always up for a little civic protest meets performance art.

  14. All fine & dandy, but why single out Scientology?

    Because its teachings are blatant, ridiculous nonsense? Well, so are those of all other religions.[1]

    Because it allegedly killed and/or abused a bunch of people?
    Christianity and Islam alone have killed and abused countless MILLIONS over the centuries. In fact they’ve *killed* more people than Scientology could ever hope to *recruit*.

    Because it tricks, manipulates, and brainwashes its followers?
    Mainstream religions have quite unashamedly tricked, manipulated, and brainwashed BILLIONS.

    Etc.

    In other words, it’s pretty lame to target this relatively insignificant, dying ‘religion’. Go picket your local church, mosque or temple instead. Or if you’re really hardcore, go to Mecca wearing a “Fuck the Prophet” t-shirt and throw rocks at the black cube thing. Then you will know, for a brief and undoubtedly very painful moment, the difference between ‘nuisance’ and ‘barbarism’.

    [1] Communism, and its bastard offspring Bleeding Heart Liberalism / Political Correctness, are religions too. Secular, perhaps, but no less harmful or insane.

  15. All fine & dandy, but why single out Scientology?

    Because its teachings are blatant, ridiculous nonsense? Well, so are those of all other religions.[1]

    Because it allegedly killed and/or abused a bunch of people?
    Christianity and Islam alone have killed and abused countless MILLIONS over the centuries. In fact they’ve *killed* more people than Scientology could ever hope to *recruit*.

    Because it tricks, manipulates, and brainwashes its followers?
    Mainstream religions have quite unashamedly tricked, manipulated, and brainwashed BILLIONS.

    Etc.

    In other words, it’s pretty lame to target this relatively insignificant, dying ‘religion’. Go picket your local church, mosque or temple instead. Or if you’re really hardcore, go to Mecca wearing a “Fuck the Prophet” t-shirt and throw rocks at the black cube thing. Then you will know, for a brief and undoubtedly very painful moment, the difference between ‘nuisance’ and ‘barbarism’.

    [1] Communism, and its bastard offspring Bleeding Heart Liberalism / Political Correctness, are religions too. Secular, perhaps, but no less harmful or insane.

  16. Again with the bogus arguments. How many times does this fallacy have to be explained to people before they stop making it.

    Paraponera, your argument is a fallacy, and an idiotic one, for two reasons. First, it makes a blind, stupid assumption that people don’t protest these other places. I, in fact, do protest other religious entities as and when they offend me. So you began by making claims that are both false and ignorant about other people. This makes you look incredibly stupid, while at the same time failing to make any relevant point at all.

    Secondly, you appeal to the meaningless and moronic, “why aren’t you doing some other activity I arbitrarily approve of more,” approach. It’s like taking someone to task for eating a hamburger when they could be eating a cheese sandwich. “Why the hell you eatin’ that burger son? You could be eatin’ a sandwich! Go eat a sandwich and stop eatin’ that lame burger!” That’s all you actually said. The problem with this unsupported display of irrational opinion is, who the hell cares what you think is lame or who should be doing what? Why should anyone be out protesting at a mosque instead of the CoS center? Because YOU said so? Baseless, pretentious demands and insults may seem cute when you’re typing them up, but they really aren’t that cute. They’re just kinda stupid.

    If Scientology is doing things badly, what possible reason do we have for not protesting them? Because you, personally, feel there are better targets worthy of our attention (though you give no reasons why these targets are ‘better’, nor do you bother to assess whether or not they’re actually being excluded.) This kind of argument, lacking in both empathy and coherent thought, always leaves me worrying that the species really is just going to collapse into an Idiocracy style environment. Think, then type for god’s sake…

  17. For anyone interested (ROP?,) the license plate on the ice/surveillance truck is pretty clear in the photo above. So, who is it registered to?

  18. WELL DONE Anonymous! For those interested, before he created Dianetics and Scientology Hubbard wrote a long essay on his personal Affimations to his life, based upon occult self-hypnosis techniques he’d learned while in the OTO in 1947.

    In these Affirmations he displays his severe angst, sexual perversions, hatred of men, hatred of women, bigotry, psychosis, occult aspirations, and personal proclamations to control people and “take over millions of minds”…. Amongst many atrocious statements, he affirms to himself, “no matter what lies you tell others, they have no effect upon you.”

    He also affirms to himself that, “‘It doesn’t give me displeasure to hear of a virgin being raped. The lot of women is to be fornicated.’ ”

    Hear the Affirmations (5) at:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXKE1Tduu0A
    More links when you get there. Enjoy the Truth!!

  19. Re: All faiths the same….$cientology is not a faith, as orchestrating one of the largest gov’t infiltrations in the US, and largest Ponzi scheme in the US; a ruthless global scam, not recognized in several countries…And yet they can threaten Democracy in the United States… This can no longer be tolerated…

    And re: Faith groups, that once worked in local communities, as one of many groups, feeding the hungry and helping the poor; as is done by everyone in a community, sharing the responsibility.. Not by actors on the TV set, not dropping names or connections of those they’ve snared to acquire funding being placed on a pedestal. As if above others, because it must be done as a policy…

    The ones who can be next warned, to protect us…
    Our officials…

    Whereas federal funding to share works of charitable groups has become irresponsible and totalitarian… that grass roots – and necessary voice, actions and reform to this unconscionable victimization of taxpayer dollars be removed permanently.

    Federal funds to faith based groups, and other non profit organizations, creates a need far beyond the communities they once sustained. And no longer our choice….? The need to defend, needing to prostelyze or use togetherness when tied to rules that leave someone else out, even in defense of subversiveness, all exercise the prostelyzation of federal funds. Cults wish to engage others in this, as if their avarice for greed has any morals… Many assumingly, do so not seeing the plight for the almighty dollar..Many defended Jonestown too…

    Here is why this cult seeks more greedily, as once a group is born in corruption, there is no reform…

    they have a tax exemption that noone else has….

    http://www.lermanet2.com/scientologynews/latimes/lat-jewishtax-013002.html

    “Why is Scientology training different from all other religious training? We should decline the invitation to answer that question. The sole issue before us is whether the Sklars’ claimed deduction is valid, not whether members of the Church of Scientology have become the IRS’s chosen people.”

    In a highly unusual move, Silverman invited people who are troubled by the IRS settlement with Scientology to file a lawsuit to unravel the deal.

    “If the IRS does, in fact, give preferential treatment to members of the Church of Scientology–allowing them a special right to claim deductions that are contrary to law and disallowed to everybody else–then the proper course of action is a lawsuit to put a stop to that policy.
    ===

    Communities have existed for long supporting charitable groups, who give to help sustain.
    $cientology not only has a special advantage, but they seek Federal monies and grants to further push their subversive programs… A double standard – of greed power and control..

    Thank you whoever all anons are, we are far more charitable, shining the light of activism to all current and future generations…

    No one votes for leaders who allow such travesty…

  20. Anyone else besides me notice that the Frosty Ice truck’s registration stickers have expired? (Dec 07). In one of the pictures, you can see where it was purchased too (Hauser Truck Sales in North Hills).

    It totally looks like something off the set of a bad TV show… so hollywood!

  21. There have been rumblings over the years that $cientology manipulated the action in their favor through extensive blackmail of IRS members. Never proven. Probably in the similiar fashion they got the Clearwater Medical Examiner to recant her original position.

    If such a lawsuit can get into action against the IRS ruling, it would be interesting to note who in the IRS would be defending $cientology — they could be the very ones who have the most to lose. At least that would be the way I’d run it if I was a Scio spy.

    Would be great if Anonymous pushed into this area, too.

  22. It’s all so pointless. The whole idea of ANY religion is the acquisition and maintenance of great wealth and political power. Remove the money and the politics and what have you got left? Nothing.

  23. Scientology invaded our Federal Building in Tampa Florida (criminal charges) to steal negative documents on their behalf and tax information in order to become a religion for tax relief. Deceased Ron L. Hubbard (science fiction writer with weird ideas) is the idol of Scientology and it was his wife involved in this Federal Building invasion.
    I have lived in Clearwater Florida my entire life and witnessed them shoving their way into our community. When they first stormed into our community in the 70’s and purchased the Jack Tarr Harrison Hotel to use as their world headquarters, they guarded it outside with machine guns and rifles. They abused their lower level members by boarding 8-10 people per small room, making them smash garbage down with their feet in large dumpsters in order to hide the amount of people residing and/or eating there and to cut costs of sewage pickup. Much worse, they taught their small children “quiet drills” so many could be shoved into locked closets during fire and other municipality inspections. These children would wait (totally silent) in locked closed closets for long periods of time while adult scientologists would fake the fact that the door key was missing…. until the inspectors would finally go away. This happened many times before the truth was finally exposed. These children were supposed to be enrolled in school but were kept secret from the community and school systems until their own schools were put in place.
    I highly suggest that you research other allegations about the Church of Scientology. There have been many factual stories printed about the cult by the St. Petersburg Times over the past years and there were live television broadcasted city hearings held for days relating to the abuse of their lower level members and the intimidating tactics that they used on our city officials and entire community. Now (years later), they own a very large percentage of Clearwater and are tax exempt on much of their property. They walk in their uniforms in large groups through our down town from building to building to take costly e-meter tests and for even costlier higher education classes. The O.T. level is the highest and most secretive…. and the most bizarre. Only the highest levels of Scientologists (and richest) obtain the O.T. level of bizarre beliefs. Other sources of true scientology readings can be found in other books, on line publications and stories by former scientologists attesting to the church brainwashing. These are all true and many believe that Scientology’s goal is to become the most powerful entity in the world. You would be amazed at the endeavors they are attempting for power. After researching this crazy “so called” religion, their beliefs, practices, their powerful intimidations, brainwashing and above all their powerful uses of certain purchased businesses and invasion of government agencies, you may come to be more open minded. There are many long time residents of Clearwater Florida that would love for the truth to finally be exposed to the rest of the world. I commend Germany! I only wish the USA would have had the same strength to prove this cult should not be a religion.

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