Goth Talk

Goth%2520Talk.jpgSince I started dating a guy I met at Bar Sinister, I’ve realized that Los Angeles has a really extensive goth scene. Being on the Westside, I hadn’t really explored the possibilities, but there is something for goths to do six nights a week. Especially on Wumpskate weeks.

Tuesdays, the two options are the Darkroom in Hollywood, or Little Cave in Highland Park. Last Tuesday, I was at the former. And it was actually perfect, for a Tuesday: populated but not crowded, softer music instead of industrial, and dark enough to take the edge off Day Two back at work after an extended vacation. Tonight, I’m checking out the latter, the Little Cave. I’m hoping their “Totally 80s” night is everything that the website hints at.

However, it’s not easy to get out of Venice on a weeknight (especially when you have a desk job) so I’ve limited most of my goth activities to Miss Kitty’s on Fridays, or Bar Sinister on Saturdays. But the last time I was at Miss Kitty’s, the goth-industrial room had been cancelled, and some sort of spanking apparatus had been set up. If they’ve resumed the goth-industrial room, I’d love to know.

Which brings me to the point of this post. I don’t know how many of our readers are on the goth side of the counterculture spectrum, but a few of us from blogging.la may well turn up at Bar Sinister this Saturday. And we’ve joked about a goth meetup, but really – why not? So those of you who are interested, or who would like to meet up, or who haven’t been to the goth clubs in L.A. because you don’t know people who go (which has been a major problem for me over the last couple years), please feel free to comment, or email me. It isn’t easy being this depressed all the time, but having a community to do it in has made it way more fun.

Oh, and only three more months to BATS DAY!

14 Replies to “Goth Talk”

  1. I use to like Bar Sinister but the music and crowd has been sucking the past few years. I want to check out Dus Bunker and Little Cave next time.

  2. Kelly, I think you meant that for shinerboy, not Koga. Note the commentors name is below the comment.

    I’d love to join you guys, but I’ve been actively boycotting Bar Sinister for several years after the door girl refused to let me in because I wasn’t wearing enough black. Seriously. And at that point I had been going to Bar Sinister for years. Longer than this particular door girl had been working there, in fact. Shortly after that was Jason’s bouncer incident and that’s enough bullshit to keep me away.

  3. Ooooh, I haven’t gothed out in furrrEVer. Maybe I’ll swing by. I love goth dancing because no one ever assaults you, grinding up against your ass on the dance floor as you stand there totally nonplussed. Goth dancers always stand a regulation 2.8 feet apart.

    Das Bunker is fun & low-key, and there’s goth karaoke at Ground Control (http://www.jewelscatchone.com/page/page/3301780.htm –not the impromptu interpretive dance behind the karaoke). Super fun.

  4. Heh! I was wondering if someone was going to point to my old entry regarding Bar Sinister and its caveman bouncer squad!

    I wonder if things have changed much since then?

    Bat’s Day, however, is super shiny good fun happy times!

  5. Yeah, they’ve turned away friends of mine for not wearing enough black as well, and hassled another friend for wearing black jeans. I try to be amused by it. The Mercury in Seattle did the same thing – but they admitted it was to keep out the people they thought would mock their patrons. (UW fratboys, mostly) I imagine it’s for the same reasons here.

  6. Yeah, sorry, I called out the wrong poster by mistake. The snarkiness of these posts gets to me sometimes. I’m a closet goth (musically anyway) so I’m glad to see the LA scene still going!

  7. I love goth dancing because no one ever assaults you, grinding up against your ass on the dance floor as you stand there totally nonplussed. Goth dancers always stand a regulation 2.8 feet apart.

    Considering that I was on the jury panel for a sexual battery case originating at Bar Sinister, I would say that assuming that “no one ever assaults you” may be a mistake.

    they admitted it was to keep out the people they thought would mock their patrons. (UW fratboys, mostly) I imagine it’s for the same reasons here.

    I don’t doubt that they have their reasons, all of them stupid. I’ve personally always found the goth scene to be entirely hypocritical when it comes to things like this. I don’t think you can rationalize judging other people based on their clothing when you don’t want to be judged based on your clothing, knowwadimean? Even if I wasn’t a long, long time goth in my earlier days, what the hell does it matter? If people want to be accepted for who they are, they need to start by accepting other people for who they are. I don’t have time for all that cliquey bullshit that everybody complained about in high school but are more than happy to practice now.

  8. But that’s what makes it funny – the goths excluding those they deem not goth enough to enter the club, because it’s a delayed reaction to high school alienation. That, and I also think Sinister has an image to uphold, just like any club, and heaven forbid that it should look LESS THAN GOTH at any given time.

    Jhonen Vasquez’s “Anne Gwish” character comes to mind – the goth girl who talks about alienation and prejudice and then goes off to be in a club of people who look exactly like her.

    Anyways. I actually agree that anyone who likes the music or the atmosphere should be able to go. I go because I happen to really love gothic/industrial/synthpop/ebm/darkwave/etc., but I also love dressing up, so it’s not an issue. It’s definitely a shame that my friends who also enjoy the music but aren’t “goth enough” have to change their personal style in order to fit the requirements.

  9. I’m totally there. Even the nonconformists conform to a standard agreement of nonconformity. That’s why I’ll show up in a white ball gown. We’ll see if I have trouble getting in. ;)

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