Comments on: Groups urge delaying Prop 8 repeal initiative to 2012 http://blogging.la/2009/07/17/groups-urge-delaying-prop-8-repeal-initiative-to-2012/ Lizard people dude. Seriously. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:54:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: CA Gay group will wait until 2012 for Prop 8 repeal effort | Los Angeles Metblogs http://blogging.la/2009/07/17/groups-urge-delaying-prop-8-repeal-initiative-to-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-44474 CA Gay group will wait until 2012 for Prop 8 repeal effort | Los Angeles Metblogs Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:18:55 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/?p=31152#comment-44474 [...] I initially wrote about it here last month, when three gay rights organizations successfully got the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force in DC on board  to wait until 2012, which at the time I suspected was the writing on the big gay wall. [...] [...] I initially wrote about it here last month, when three gay rights organizations successfully got the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force in DC on board  to wait until 2012, which at the time I suspected was the writing on the big gay wall. [...]

]]> By: Date for campaign to repeal Prop 8 still up in the air | Los Angeles Metblogs http://blogging.la/2009/07/17/groups-urge-delaying-prop-8-repeal-initiative-to-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-44473 Date for campaign to repeal Prop 8 still up in the air | Los Angeles Metblogs Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:58:31 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/?p=31152#comment-44473 [...] Last week I posted about three gay rights groups in California that joined together, with the endorsement of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force in DC, to release a statement calling a 2010 initiative “rushed and risky.” Called “Prepare to Prevail,” its approach calls for a lengthy grass roots movement that engages minority communities that overall supported Prop 8; and waiting for statewide poll numbers to show a 60% approval rating for same-sex marriage before an initiative appears on the ballot. [...] [...] Last week I posted about three gay rights groups in California that joined together, with the endorsement of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force in DC, to release a statement calling a 2010 initiative “rushed and risky.” Called “Prepare to Prevail,” its approach calls for a lengthy grass roots movement that engages minority communities that overall supported Prop 8; and waiting for statewide poll numbers to show a 60% approval rating for same-sex marriage before an initiative appears on the ballot. [...]

]]> By: All that is solid melts into air « Daily News http://blogging.la/2009/07/17/groups-urge-delaying-prop-8-repeal-initiative-to-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-44472 All that is solid melts into air « Daily News Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:32:56 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/?p=31152#comment-44472 [...] estimable friend and blog author, Chal Pivik posted a description of the statement “Prepare to Prevail,” written by three LGBT advocacy groups.  These groups urged advocates of marriage equality to [...] [...] estimable friend and blog author, Chal Pivik posted a description of the statement “Prepare to Prevail,” written by three LGBT advocacy groups.  These groups urged advocates of marriage equality to [...]

]]> By: All that is solid melts into air | Los Angeles Metblogs http://blogging.la/2009/07/17/groups-urge-delaying-prop-8-repeal-initiative-to-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-44471 All that is solid melts into air | Los Angeles Metblogs Sat, 18 Jul 2009 06:25:02 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/?p=31152#comment-44471 [...] estimable friend and blog author, Chal Pivik posted a description of the statement “Prepare to Prevail,” written by three LGBT advocacy groups.  These groups urged advocates of marriage equality to [...] [...] estimable friend and blog author, Chal Pivik posted a description of the statement “Prepare to Prevail,” written by three LGBT advocacy groups.  These groups urged advocates of marriage equality to [...]

]]> By: Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters http://blogging.la/2009/07/17/groups-urge-delaying-prop-8-repeal-initiative-to-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-44470 Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:12:35 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/?p=31152#comment-44470 I'd put it this way (or quote it, anyway), at least by analogy: <blockquote>We find the same logic of the error as an internal condition of truth with Rosa Luxemburg, with her description of the dialectics of the revolutionary process. We are alluding here to her argument against Eduard Bernstein, against his revisionist fear of seizing power 'too soon', 'prematurely', before the so-called 'objective conditions' had ripened [...] they are too impatient, they want to hasten, to outrun the objective logic of historical developement. Rosa Luxemburg's answer is that the first seizures of power are <i>necessarily 'premature'</i>: the only way for the working class to reach its 'maturity', to await the arrival of the 'appropriate moment' for the seizure of power, is to form itself, to educate itself for this act of seizure, the only possible way of achieving this education is precisely the 'premature' attempts. --Slavoj Žižek, <i>The Sublime Object of Ideology</i></blockquote> Isn't it funny how every new idea was old in 1915? I’d put it this way (or quote it, anyway), at least by analogy:

We find the same logic of the error as an internal condition of truth with Rosa Luxemburg, with her description of the dialectics of the revolutionary process. We are alluding here to her argument against Eduard Bernstein, against his revisionist fear of seizing power ‘too soon’, ‘prematurely’, before the so-called ‘objective conditions’ had ripened [...] they are too impatient, they want to hasten, to outrun the objective logic of historical developement. Rosa Luxemburg’s answer is that the first seizures of power are necessarily ‘premature’: the only way for the working class to reach its ‘maturity’, to await the arrival of the ‘appropriate moment’ for the seizure of power, is to form itself, to educate itself for this act of seizure, the only possible way of achieving this education is precisely the ‘premature’ attempts. –Slavoj Žižek, The Sublime Object of Ideology

Isn’t it funny how every new idea was old in 1915?

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