Comments on: Broken Parking Meters Along Marina Channel: Sign of Budgetary Badness to Come? http://blogging.la/2009/05/21/broken-parking-meters-along-marina-channel-sign-of-budgetary-badness-to-come/ Lizard people dude. Seriously. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:54:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Spencer Cross http://blogging.la/2009/05/21/broken-parking-meters-along-marina-channel-sign-of-budgetary-badness-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-22321 Spencer Cross Sat, 23 May 2009 00:36:12 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/?p=28313#comment-22321 No idea about LACC 15.20.070, Jim, but I know you're allowed to park at broken meters for the posted time limit in the city of Los Angeles. Marina del Rey is in unincorporated Los Angeles County, however, so my guess would be the county's code regarding parking at broken meters is different. No idea about LACC 15.20.070, Jim, but I know you’re allowed to park at broken meters for the posted time limit in the city of Los Angeles. Marina del Rey is in unincorporated Los Angeles County, however, so my guess would be the county’s code regarding parking at broken meters is different.

]]> By: jimd http://blogging.la/2009/05/21/broken-parking-meters-along-marina-channel-sign-of-budgetary-badness-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-22320 jimd Fri, 22 May 2009 20:55:08 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/?p=28313#comment-22320 I thought I understood that if a meter was inoperable you were allowed to park there for the normal limit of the meter. If you exceeded that you could be ticketed. And if the meter "resets" itself and becomes operable while you're there it would look like you were in violation, and really hard to prove that it was inoperable when you arrived. Anyway, I tried to look up the ordinance that's cited on that sign in the posting, LACC 15.20.070, and it seems to be about obeying posted signs (No parking in red zone, etc.), not about inoperable meters. Unless I just don't get the connection. "15.20.070 Obedience to traffic signs. Every operator and every pedestrian shall comply with and obey every instruction appearing on any traffic sign or other marking, which sign or marking has been erected or placed by authority of the board or commissioner or this Division 1. (Ord. 6544 Ch. 1 Art. 3 § 1319, 1954.)" Therefore, if there's a sign that says "2 hour limit" you have to obey that. But the sign at the Marina implies that merely parking at the inoperable meter is illegal, by this particular ordinance. Anyone have more info on this? I thought I understood that if a meter was inoperable you were allowed to park there for the normal limit of the meter. If you exceeded that you could be ticketed. And if the meter “resets” itself and becomes operable while you’re there it would look like you were in violation, and really hard to prove that it was inoperable when you arrived. Anyway, I tried to look up the ordinance that’s cited on that sign in the posting, LACC 15.20.070, and it seems to be about obeying posted signs (No parking in red zone, etc.), not about inoperable meters. Unless I just don’t get the connection.

“15.20.070 Obedience to traffic signs. Every operator and every pedestrian shall comply with and obey every instruction appearing on any traffic sign or other marking, which sign or marking has been erected or placed by authority of the board or commissioner or this Division 1. (Ord. 6544 Ch. 1 Art. 3 § 1319, 1954.)”

Therefore, if there’s a sign that says “2 hour limit” you have to obey that. But the sign at the Marina implies that merely parking at the inoperable meter is illegal, by this particular ordinance.

Anyone have more info on this?

]]> By: frazgo http://blogging.la/2009/05/21/broken-parking-meters-along-marina-channel-sign-of-budgetary-badness-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-22319 frazgo Fri, 22 May 2009 16:18:40 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/?p=28313#comment-22319 Chal hit it on the head...shameful. Fix it already. Chal hit it on the head…shameful. Fix it already.

]]> By: rollerzz http://blogging.la/2009/05/21/broken-parking-meters-along-marina-channel-sign-of-budgetary-badness-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-22318 rollerzz Fri, 22 May 2009 03:32:01 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/?p=28313#comment-22318 The "something for nothing" mentality. And it's been downhill ever since Prop 13. The “something for nothing” mentality. And it’s been downhill ever since Prop 13.

]]> By: Chal Pivik http://blogging.la/2009/05/21/broken-parking-meters-along-marina-channel-sign-of-budgetary-badness-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-22317 Chal Pivik Thu, 21 May 2009 23:49:30 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/?p=28313#comment-22317 In a big picture way, I would say unchecked capitalism is to blame. A friend of mine recently suggested that capitalism is in its death throws much like Soviet communism was two decades ago. Also, those threatening parking signs exhibit the government's outright hostility and intent to deliver misery to the people that it's supposed to serve. It's shameful. In a big picture way, I would say unchecked capitalism is to blame. A friend of mine recently suggested that capitalism is in its death throws much like Soviet communism was two decades ago.

Also, those threatening parking signs exhibit the government’s outright hostility and intent to deliver misery to the people that it’s supposed to serve. It’s shameful.

]]> By: Dissembly http://blogging.la/2009/05/21/broken-parking-meters-along-marina-channel-sign-of-budgetary-badness-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-22316 Dissembly Thu, 21 May 2009 23:40:58 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/?p=28313#comment-22316 They will really fine someone for parking at a broken meter? That seems *incredibly* petty! "Well if we can't use it, *nobody* can use it"! Why not just turn them into 2-hour parking spots or something like that, if congestion is an issue? They can obviously spend money on putting up the "no parking at inoperable meters" signs... Maybe they should just make the fine $3, or something like that, if they're concerned with replacing the revenue from the meter. - <a href="http://melbourne.metblogs.com/author/mel_david/" rel="nofollow">Dissembly</a> They will really fine someone for parking at a broken meter? That seems *incredibly* petty! “Well if we can’t use it, *nobody* can use it”!

Why not just turn them into 2-hour parking spots or something like that, if congestion is an issue? They can obviously spend money on putting up the “no parking at inoperable meters” signs…

Maybe they should just make the fine $3, or something like that, if they’re concerned with replacing the revenue from the meter.

- Dissembly

]]> By: Lucinda Michele http://blogging.la/2009/05/21/broken-parking-meters-along-marina-channel-sign-of-budgetary-badness-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-22315 Lucinda Michele Thu, 21 May 2009 23:34:57 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/?p=28313#comment-22315 I think a lot of people didn't think about the actual daily-life toll these cutbacks will take. I'm not saying any of Tuesday's propositions should have passed--they were all attempts at damage control, damage that's already done--but I think the people who vehemently demand CA fix its budget crisis, don't fully comprehend what that could mean for the services they rely upon every day. The budget should be fixed, of course, but you can't have your cake & eat it too. I think a lot of people didn’t think about the actual daily-life toll these cutbacks will take. I’m not saying any of Tuesday’s propositions should have passed–they were all attempts at damage control, damage that’s already done–but I think the people who vehemently demand CA fix its budget crisis, don’t fully comprehend what that could mean for the services they rely upon every day.

The budget should be fixed, of course, but you can’t have your cake & eat it too.

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