Comments on: Is Santa Monica part of Los Angeles? http://blogging.la/2009/04/27/is-santa-monica-part-of-los-angeles/ Lizard people dude. Seriously. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:54:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: The Foothill Cities Blog » Blog Archive » Taxing Issues http://blogging.la/2009/04/27/is-santa-monica-part-of-los-angeles/comment-page-1/#comment-32849 The Foothill Cities Blog » Blog Archive » Taxing Issues Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:54:48 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/?p=26679#comment-32849 [...] I just want to draw attention to Ms. Zucco’s post on civic nomenclature (Metroblogging has a nice post on the larger issue too) and bring things back towards a discussion of [...] [...] I just want to draw attention to Ms. Zucco’s post on civic nomenclature (Metroblogging has a nice post on the larger issue too) and bring things back towards a discussion of [...]

]]> By: nobody1231234 http://blogging.la/2009/04/27/is-santa-monica-part-of-los-angeles/comment-page-1/#comment-32848 nobody1231234 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:44:30 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/?p=26679#comment-32848 We all realize that Palmdale is in LA County now, don't we? Because of that, I really consider only southern LA County part of the LA area (and some of the neighboring areas). If someone says LA, I think about the city, and only the city. We all realize that Palmdale is in LA County now, don’t we? Because of that, I really consider only southern LA County part of the LA area (and some of the neighboring areas). If someone says LA, I think about the city, and only the city.

]]> By: frazgo http://blogging.la/2009/04/27/is-santa-monica-part-of-los-angeles/comment-page-1/#comment-32847 frazgo Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:48:33 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/?p=26679#comment-32847 I take the broad "its metro LA" view, though SaMo probably doesn't care for the lumping. I take the broad “its metro LA” view, though SaMo probably doesn’t care for the lumping.

]]> By: Jodi Kurland http://blogging.la/2009/04/27/is-santa-monica-part-of-los-angeles/comment-page-1/#comment-32846 Jodi Kurland Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:03:58 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/?p=26679#comment-32846 I tend to think of L.A. County as "L.A." Sometimes I will refer to "the city of Los Angeles" if I want to specify an area that is actually city vs. county. At one point at least, Santa Monica did not want to associate with L.A., as noted in the piece you wrote about L.A. dogs not being allowed in Santa Monica parks: http://la.metblogs.com/2007/07/23/la-dogs-allowed-in-santa-monica-dog-park-for-now/ I tend to think of L.A. County as “L.A.” Sometimes I will refer to “the city of Los Angeles” if I want to specify an area that is actually city vs. county.

At one point at least, Santa Monica did not want to associate with L.A., as noted in the piece you wrote about L.A. dogs not being allowed in Santa Monica parks: http://la.metblogs.com/2007/07/23/la-dogs-allowed-in-santa-monica-dog-park-for-now/

]]> By: scott http://blogging.la/2009/04/27/is-santa-monica-part-of-los-angeles/comment-page-1/#comment-32845 scott Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:56:31 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/?p=26679#comment-32845 Forget whether or not Santa Monica is part of LA, the main thing wrong with this ad is that they left out the word "The" from in front of "Santa Monica Pier". Forget whether or not Santa Monica is part of LA, the main thing wrong with this ad is that they left out the word “The” from in front of “Santa Monica Pier”.

]]> By: Bert Green http://blogging.la/2009/04/27/is-santa-monica-part-of-los-angeles/comment-page-1/#comment-32844 Bert Green Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:34:32 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/?p=26679#comment-32844 Obviously if the general practice by so many people has been to consider all of the LA County area "Los Angeles," it's going to be an ingrained and long-term habit. But in some ways that is no different from other cities. People from the areas surrounding New York, Chicago, San Francisco, and may other cities would tell someone they were from that city if asked, because usually nobody would have heard of the particular suburb or small town that they might be from. LA is sort of unique in that it actually surrounds so many small cities which are quite famous in their own right: Beverly Hills, Santa Monica, Culver City, West Hollywood. But it is also important to understand why they are actually different cities. Usually it was over resources, real estate, or worse, class or race issues. Unlike other places, though, there is no county in the US as large as Los Angeles County, or with as many cities (88) within its borders. Los Angeles County is also larger in size and population (11 million) than all of New York City. The division of political responsibilities between local city government and county government binds the cities of Los Angeles County together in ways unlike any other metropolitan area anywhere that I know of. San Francisco is a city and a county. That makes it significantly distinct from the surrounding area, which includes about 5 counties for a total population of about half that of LA County. New York City has 5 counties (boroughs) within city limits. Los Angeles City does not have control over County politics, unlike other large cities. That actually makes LA City weaker than other cities (politically), and give a lot of advantages to the suburbs as far as policy goes. It's a complicated identity. Obviously if the general practice by so many people has been to consider all of the LA County area “Los Angeles,” it’s going to be an ingrained and long-term habit. But in some ways that is no different from other cities. People from the areas surrounding New York, Chicago, San Francisco, and may other cities would tell someone they were from that city if asked, because usually nobody would have heard of the particular suburb or small town that they might be from.

LA is sort of unique in that it actually surrounds so many small cities which are quite famous in their own right: Beverly Hills, Santa Monica, Culver City, West Hollywood. But it is also important to understand why they are actually different cities. Usually it was over resources, real estate, or worse, class or race issues.

Unlike other places, though, there is no county in the US as large as Los Angeles County, or with as many cities (88) within its borders. Los Angeles County is also larger in size and population (11 million) than all of New York City. The division of political responsibilities between local city government and county government binds the cities of Los Angeles County together in ways unlike any other metropolitan area anywhere that I know of. San Francisco is a city and a county. That makes it significantly distinct from the surrounding area, which includes about 5 counties for a total population of about half that of LA County. New York City has 5 counties (boroughs) within city limits.

Los Angeles City does not have control over County politics, unlike other large cities. That actually makes LA City weaker than other cities (politically), and give a lot of advantages to the suburbs as far as policy goes. It’s a complicated identity.

]]> By: laure http://blogging.la/2009/04/27/is-santa-monica-part-of-los-angeles/comment-page-1/#comment-32843 laure Tue, 28 Apr 2009 04:06:28 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/?p=26679#comment-32843 As a longtime Euro-transplant to Santa Monica, I consider myself as an angeleno. But it is true that angelenos -- and the local blogosphere in general -- distinguish themselves from Santa Monica. So does the bureaucracy: we recently looked at the opportunity of becoming disaster relief volunteers, and it turned out that Santa Monica has zero programs on the subject (whether it's the City, the fire department, or the Red Cross.) So we're getting all our training, and volunteer opportunities, through L.A. County. Back to the Microsoft ad, it just shows how clueless the company is to L.A. dynamics. There are many, more appropriate landmarks they could have chosen to make their point -- if only the Hollywood sign, or LAX's Encounter. Yet, the ad shows how iconic, and internationally renowned, the Santa Monica pier has become. It is celebrating its centennial this year, and historian James Harris wrote a great little book about it: http://www.smdp.com/Articles-c-2009-03-20-51313.113116_Santa_Monica_Pier_A_Century_on_The_Last_Great_Pleasure_Pier.html As a longtime Euro-transplant to Santa Monica, I consider myself as an angeleno. But it is true that angelenos — and the local blogosphere in general — distinguish themselves from Santa Monica. So does the bureaucracy: we recently looked at the opportunity of becoming disaster relief volunteers, and it turned out that Santa Monica has zero programs on the subject (whether it’s the City, the fire department, or the Red Cross.) So we’re getting all our training, and volunteer opportunities, through L.A. County.

Back to the Microsoft ad, it just shows how clueless the company is to L.A. dynamics. There are many, more appropriate landmarks they could have chosen to make their point — if only the Hollywood sign, or LAX’s Encounter.

Yet, the ad shows how iconic, and internationally renowned, the Santa Monica pier has become. It is celebrating its centennial this year, and historian James Harris wrote a great little book about it: http://www.smdp.com/Articles-c-2009-03-20-51313.113116_Santa_Monica_Pier_A_Century_on_The_Last_Great_Pleasure_Pier.html

]]> By: Burns! http://blogging.la/2009/04/27/is-santa-monica-part-of-los-angeles/comment-page-1/#comment-32842 Burns! Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:08:47 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/?p=26679#comment-32842 Although I've resided in Glendora, Duarte, West Covina, Pasadena, South Pasadena and Silver Lake, I've always lived in Los Angeles. Although I’ve resided in Glendora, Duarte, West Covina, Pasadena, South Pasadena and Silver Lake, I’ve always lived in Los Angeles.

]]> By: snacktime http://blogging.la/2009/04/27/is-santa-monica-part-of-los-angeles/comment-page-1/#comment-32841 snacktime Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:06:13 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/?p=26679#comment-32841 I don't care about city pride (or any other group-oriented pride) but I do care about accuracy and metaphors that make sense. so I think this ad is stupid. I'd be interested in what Open Office users in the Los Angeles area think about it. :) I don’t care about city pride (or any other group-oriented pride) but I do care about accuracy and metaphors that make sense. so I think this ad is stupid.

I’d be interested in what Open Office users in the Los Angeles area think about it. :)

]]> By: cephyn http://blogging.la/2009/04/27/is-santa-monica-part-of-los-angeles/comment-page-1/#comment-32840 cephyn Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:53:28 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/?p=26679#comment-32840 Office is an add-on to the PC (implied, Windows), just as Santa Monica is an add-on to Los Angeles. Makes perfect sense to me. Office is an add-on to the PC (implied, Windows), just as Santa Monica is an add-on to Los Angeles. Makes perfect sense to me.

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