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	<title>Comments on: Venice RV Parking War Heats Up</title>
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	<description>Lizard people dude. Seriously.</description>
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		<title>By: Matt Mason</title>
		<link>http://blogging.la/2009/02/19/venice-rv-parking-war-heats-up/comment-page-1/#comment-22205</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@rogerdodger -- I&#039;m all for enforcing existing measures, such as posted parking time limits.  My earlier linked post was all about that.  However, in this case, while such enforcement might get these vehicles off of the Venice neighborhood streets at night, it would not solve the problem of where they should then go.  It may be that designated safe zones are needed.

Second, as to streets where the vehicles are parking in metered spaces, as one commenter pointed out on my earlier post, many of the people who use their vehicles for camping on the streets have handicapped tags, and Los Angeles exempts such vehicles from the time limits in such spaces.  It&#039;s a ridiculous loophole that must have been intended to give drivers with handicapped tags *more* time to get in an out of their vehicles and do their activities while parked, which is understandable, but it could not possibly have been intended for such drivers to camp in their vehicles overnight.  Nevertheless, that is the effect, and therefore only an overnight restriction with no loophole, rather than a simple time limit, would prevent camping in the metered spots.

Finally, the dumping that I related was in the street, not on someone&#039;s lawn.  But your point about enforcing littering and other existing laws is well taken, and hopefully there&#039;s one that would prohibit such dumping.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rogerdodger &#8212; I&#8217;m all for enforcing existing measures, such as posted parking time limits.  My earlier linked post was all about that.  However, in this case, while such enforcement might get these vehicles off of the Venice neighborhood streets at night, it would not solve the problem of where they should then go.  It may be that designated safe zones are needed.</p>
<p>Second, as to streets where the vehicles are parking in metered spaces, as one commenter pointed out on my earlier post, many of the people who use their vehicles for camping on the streets have handicapped tags, and Los Angeles exempts such vehicles from the time limits in such spaces.  It&#8217;s a ridiculous loophole that must have been intended to give drivers with handicapped tags *more* time to get in an out of their vehicles and do their activities while parked, which is understandable, but it could not possibly have been intended for such drivers to camp in their vehicles overnight.  Nevertheless, that is the effect, and therefore only an overnight restriction with no loophole, rather than a simple time limit, would prevent camping in the metered spots.</p>
<p>Finally, the dumping that I related was in the street, not on someone&#8217;s lawn.  But your point about enforcing littering and other existing laws is well taken, and hopefully there&#8217;s one that would prohibit such dumping.</p>
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		<title>By: rogerdodger</title>
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		<dc:creator>rogerdodger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a shame that it has come to this. But more the shame is that residents of Venice can just make it illegal to use the city streets.

Everybody paid the taxes to build those streets. A simple time limit on all parking should be the only enforced measure. This keeps junkers from building up for years.

If people are pouring shit on the lawns, there&#039;s already a law regarding that. It has nothing to do with small communities enacting their own personally benificial parking restrictions.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a shame that it has come to this. But more the shame is that residents of Venice can just make it illegal to use the city streets.</p>
<p>Everybody paid the taxes to build those streets. A simple time limit on all parking should be the only enforced measure. This keeps junkers from building up for years.</p>
<p>If people are pouring shit on the lawns, there&#8217;s already a law regarding that. It has nothing to do with small communities enacting their own personally benificial parking restrictions.</p>
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		<title>By: frazgo</title>
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		<dc:creator>frazgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the ones in NoHo just shifted from Silverlake when that are enforced the ban on Riverside drive.

ITs getting bad in the little parks along the foothills, even in those posted &quot;no camping&quot;.

I think its a bad idea to allow setting up of these little hoovervilles.  Walmart allows them to camp there, and even has roaming security, let them go there to keep the streets clear and parking available for the residents of the neighborhood.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the ones in NoHo just shifted from Silverlake when that are enforced the ban on Riverside drive.</p>
<p>ITs getting bad in the little parks along the foothills, even in those posted &#8220;no camping&#8221;.</p>
<p>I think its a bad idea to allow setting up of these little hoovervilles.  Walmart allows them to camp there, and even has roaming security, let them go there to keep the streets clear and parking available for the residents of the neighborhood.</p>
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		<title>By: victorialane</title>
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		<dc:creator>victorialane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the economy is having an impact on the number of nomadic, homeless people living out of RVs.  Here in NoHo we&#039;ve had a few of those types taking up residence beneath freeway underpasses.  I&#039;ve even seen elder couples living in cars too.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the economy is having an impact on the number of nomadic, homeless people living out of RVs.  Here in NoHo we&#8217;ve had a few of those types taking up residence beneath freeway underpasses.  I&#8217;ve even seen elder couples living in cars too.</p>
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