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		<title>By: The Taliban of the GLB Movement &#171; Enough Non-Sense</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Taliban of the GLB Movement &#171; Enough Non-Sense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 06:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the GLBT.  They are also the most vocal  and, by far, the easiest targets.  At the recent GayCon 2009 equality summit of the GLBT, one lesbian reporter had this to say:  “I went to the tranny [...]

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the GLBT.  They are also the most vocal  and, by far, the easiest targets.  At the recent GayCon 2009 equality summit of the GLBT, one lesbian reporter had this to say:  “I went to the tranny [...]</p>
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		<title>By: So You Want a Gender Revolution?..The Binary Bites Back &#171; Riding the Second Wave</title>
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		<dc:creator>So You Want a Gender Revolution?..The Binary Bites Back &#171; Riding the Second Wave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] January 31, 2009 So You Want a Gender Revolution?..The Binary Bites Back Posted by catkisser under Pam&#039;s House Blend, bigotry, cis-gendered, cis-privileged, cis-sexual, feminism, gender terrorism, transfeminism, transgender, transsexual, women of transsexual history    Lisa Harney just showed up in my comments section.  She complained that I “misrepresented” her positions when the entire first 2/3 of the blog entry was her own unedited words.  Hmmmmm. Trannyland is currently up in arms about folks using the word tranny…another hmmmm.  “Autumn” Sandeen actually blew a gasket over it on Pam’s Transgender House complete with allowing almost endless attacks on a trans supportive lesbian, Maura Hennessey, and on another supportive lesbian ally on LA Metblogs. [...]

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] January 31, 2009 So You Want a Gender Revolution?..The Binary Bites Back Posted by catkisser under Pam&#8217;s House Blend, bigotry, cis-gendered, cis-privileged, cis-sexual, feminism, gender terrorism, transfeminism, transgender, transsexual, women of transsexual history    Lisa Harney just showed up in my comments section.  She complained that I “misrepresented” her positions when the entire first 2/3 of the blog entry was her own unedited words.  Hmmmmm. Trannyland is currently up in arms about folks using the word tranny…another hmmmm.  “Autumn” Sandeen actually blew a gasket over it on Pam’s Transgender House complete with allowing almost endless attacks on a trans supportive lesbian, Maura Hennessey, and on another supportive lesbian ally on LA Metblogs. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Markland</title>
		<link>http://blogging.la/2009/01/26/equality-summit-or-gaycon-2009/comment-page-2/#comment-22788</link>
		<dc:creator>David Markland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, for those following along: one reason you should be happy we don&#039;t eliminate &quot;hate speech&quot; is because it keeps the person who wrote those words accountable. So if someone does write something idiotic, it can be used to bite them in the ass later on.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, for those following along: one reason you should be happy we don&#8217;t eliminate &#8220;hate speech&#8221; is because it keeps the person who wrote those words accountable. So if someone does write something idiotic, it can be used to bite them in the ass later on.</p>
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		<title>By: radicalbitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>radicalbitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There’s no need to keep making the same complaint over and over once it has been addressed.&quot;

Sandeen is mentally ill, clinically so as in on SSD for being so.  You think you got comments here?  Sandeen fired up over 148 comments on Pam&#039;s Transgender Blend attacking this blog and the original poster completely with threats of physical violence against women of transsexual history.  What Sandeen is not is a journalist.  Many of us were laughing our butts off because Sandeen is the idiot that browbeat GLAAD into &quot;trans&quot; definitions that simply are ludicrous.  Tranny and it&#039;s variations were time honoured terms of endearment within trans communities for decades prior to Sandeen.  Add ed to the end of transgenger and Sandeen will spring for your throat despite the fact that it&#039;s used almost with the same frequency in writing with trans circles as without it.  And worse of all was the promotion of the term &quot;transgender&quot; as an umbrella term.  Again for more than a decade those who were born classic transsexuals have voiced our open opposition to that.  We don&#039;t &quot;trans&quot; our gender, it&#039;s consistent from birth, the term itself was coined by the rabidly anti-transsexual Charles Prince and it links those with a neurological form of intersexuality with those with sexual fetishes.  We have been silenced, threated, harassed, banned etc just for voicing this opposition.  So watching Sandeen try to pull the bullying here and failing is wonderful to see.

You wish to support some of us?  Sign our petition to GLAAD to stop using &quot;transgender&quot; as an umbrella definition against the express wishes of a segment pushed under that umbrella in direct disrespect of our collective wishes:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/transgender-is-not-an-umbrella

And for what it&#039;s worth, a number of us found this fine blog as a result of the controversy so I&#039;d guess you&#039;ll gain many more readers than you will lose.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There’s no need to keep making the same complaint over and over once it has been addressed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sandeen is mentally ill, clinically so as in on SSD for being so.  You think you got comments here?  Sandeen fired up over 148 comments on Pam&#8217;s Transgender Blend attacking this blog and the original poster completely with threats of physical violence against women of transsexual history.  What Sandeen is not is a journalist.  Many of us were laughing our butts off because Sandeen is the idiot that browbeat GLAAD into &#8220;trans&#8221; definitions that simply are ludicrous.  Tranny and it&#8217;s variations were time honoured terms of endearment within trans communities for decades prior to Sandeen.  Add ed to the end of transgenger and Sandeen will spring for your throat despite the fact that it&#8217;s used almost with the same frequency in writing with trans circles as without it.  And worse of all was the promotion of the term &#8220;transgender&#8221; as an umbrella term.  Again for more than a decade those who were born classic transsexuals have voiced our open opposition to that.  We don&#8217;t &#8220;trans&#8221; our gender, it&#8217;s consistent from birth, the term itself was coined by the rabidly anti-transsexual Charles Prince and it links those with a neurological form of intersexuality with those with sexual fetishes.  We have been silenced, threated, harassed, banned etc just for voicing this opposition.  So watching Sandeen try to pull the bullying here and failing is wonderful to see.</p>
<p>You wish to support some of us?  Sign our petition to GLAAD to stop using &#8220;transgender&#8221; as an umbrella definition against the express wishes of a segment pushed under that umbrella in direct disrespect of our collective wishes:<br />
<a href="http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/transgender-is-not-an-umbrella" rel="nofollow">http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/transgender-is-not-an-umbrella</a></p>
<p>And for what it&#8217;s worth, a number of us found this fine blog as a result of the controversy so I&#8217;d guess you&#8217;ll gain many more readers than you will lose.</p>
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		<title>By: Burns!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burns!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. This is still going on?  Really?

The inner-12-year-old was already giggling when I saw the number of comments on this thread, and I was a little sad that I was one comment too late.  Frazgo made a noble effort to let someone else have the fun, but something tells me that the numerological humor was lost.

I&#039;ve stayed out of this fray so far, but here&#039;s my two cents: Queequeg wrote a great post about a topic that probably doesn&#039;t get enough coverage. In it, she used a lot of words that she doesn&#039;t find offensive, but someone took offense to **one** of those words and hijacked the comment thread with their indignation, all but demanding a public apology and caning. Q did, in fact, apologize (jury&#039;s still out on the caning, though I&#039;m guessing probably not.) That was apparently not good enough, because those whose feathers were ruffled are still here complaining three days later in the longest MetBlogs comment thread I can ever recall seeing.

In Q&#039;s experience, the word &quot;tranny&quot; was not offensive. It was brought to her attention that someone took offense, so she apologized.  The end.  Beyond that, it would seem that those who continue to complain do so simply to keep the issue alive and drawing attention.  Negative attention, by the way, as it is based in controversy. It should be noted that I think Q&#039;s original intent with this piece was to bring *positive* attention to her subject.

I hope it doesn&#039;t seem too harsh when I say...get over it! Whenever Bill O&#039;Rielly (okay, I don&#039;t really watch Bill O&#039;) says something that offends me beyond repair, I just change the channel. I would hate to lose a reader, because I think MetBlogs has a lot of great stuff to see, including this original post, but if someone isn&#039;t getting what they need here there are a lot of other channels to turn to. There&#039;s no need to keep making the same complaint over and over once it has been addressed.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. This is still going on?  Really?</p>
<p>The inner-12-year-old was already giggling when I saw the number of comments on this thread, and I was a little sad that I was one comment too late.  Frazgo made a noble effort to let someone else have the fun, but something tells me that the numerological humor was lost.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve stayed out of this fray so far, but here&#8217;s my two cents: Queequeg wrote a great post about a topic that probably doesn&#8217;t get enough coverage. In it, she used a lot of words that she doesn&#8217;t find offensive, but someone took offense to **one** of those words and hijacked the comment thread with their indignation, all but demanding a public apology and caning. Q did, in fact, apologize (jury&#8217;s still out on the caning, though I&#8217;m guessing probably not.) That was apparently not good enough, because those whose feathers were ruffled are still here complaining three days later in the longest MetBlogs comment thread I can ever recall seeing.</p>
<p>In Q&#8217;s experience, the word &#8220;tranny&#8221; was not offensive. It was brought to her attention that someone took offense, so she apologized.  The end.  Beyond that, it would seem that those who continue to complain do so simply to keep the issue alive and drawing attention.  Negative attention, by the way, as it is based in controversy. It should be noted that I think Q&#8217;s original intent with this piece was to bring *positive* attention to her subject.</p>
<p>I hope it doesn&#8217;t seem too harsh when I say&#8230;get over it! Whenever Bill O&#8217;Rielly (okay, I don&#8217;t really watch Bill O&#8217;) says something that offends me beyond repair, I just change the channel. I would hate to lose a reader, because I think MetBlogs has a lot of great stuff to see, including this original post, but if someone isn&#8217;t getting what they need here there are a lot of other channels to turn to. There&#8217;s no need to keep making the same complaint over and over once it has been addressed.</p>
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		<title>By: bricar1632</title>
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		<dc:creator>bricar1632</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bondsinseconds

I can understand your worries about &quot;the future of non-trans lgb folks as allies to trans people,&quot; considering how ugly the environment has been here.  And while I am only one gay man, I hope that my example is proof that there are those of us who believe transgender issues and visibility are just as important (if not more so) compared to the issues and rights of the rest of the LGBT family.  I personally believe that your community is a barometer for the overall successes and failures of the LGBT family.  So instances of discrimination and/or violence against your community says a lot about all of us and is an attack on all of us.

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<p>I can understand your worries about &#8220;the future of non-trans lgb folks as allies to trans people,&#8221; considering how ugly the environment has been here.  And while I am only one gay man, I hope that my example is proof that there are those of us who believe transgender issues and visibility are just as important (if not more so) compared to the issues and rights of the rest of the LGBT family.  I personally believe that your community is a barometer for the overall successes and failures of the LGBT family.  So instances of discrimination and/or violence against your community says a lot about all of us and is an attack on all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: frazgo</title>
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		<dc:creator>frazgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason Burns...drinks on your tab...IF it wouldn&#039;t offend I&#039;d say I love you almost as Queequeg for this post.  Back on point, I still believe this is an issue to be litigated and let the courts rule once and for all.  It is a civil rights issue and we need some permanence.

I can&#039;t wait to see what happens on question #69, but then again am a snarky smart ass and was tempted to do a &quot;?&quot; so I could claim it but opted to let some else have at it.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason Burns&#8230;drinks on your tab&#8230;IF it wouldn&#8217;t offend I&#8217;d say I love you almost as Queequeg for this post.  Back on point, I still believe this is an issue to be litigated and let the courts rule once and for all.  It is a civil rights issue and we need some permanence.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait to see what happens on question #69, but then again am a snarky smart ass and was tempted to do a &#8220;?&#8221; so I could claim it but opted to let some else have at it.</p>
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		<title>By: bondsinseconds</title>
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		<dc:creator>bondsinseconds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, i&#039;m sorry, i didn&#039;t realize that trans people are supposed to kiss the feet of lgb people who decide to write about us, regardless of how they do it, or the language they use. honestly, reading the responses here just makes me less and less hopeful about the future of non-trans lgb folks as allies to trans people. to have so many people here imply that trans people who are upset about this are just crybabies is such a slap in the face.

it&#039;s the most trite analogy, but if this was a straight liberal blog writing about the &quot;fag session&quot;, would you think it was no big deal, and just TOTALLY AWESOME that you got a shout out?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, i&#8217;m sorry, i didn&#8217;t realize that trans people are supposed to kiss the feet of lgb people who decide to write about us, regardless of how they do it, or the language they use. honestly, reading the responses here just makes me less and less hopeful about the future of non-trans lgb folks as allies to trans people. to have so many people here imply that trans people who are upset about this are just crybabies is such a slap in the face.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s the most trite analogy, but if this was a straight liberal blog writing about the &#8220;fag session&#8221;, would you think it was no big deal, and just TOTALLY AWESOME that you got a shout out?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m also buying Jaxson a drink.

If this continues, I&#039;m looking at an outrageous tab.

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<p>If this continues, I&#8217;m looking at an outrageous tab.</p>
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		<title>By: suesue</title>
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		<dc:creator>suesue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This shows that the transgenders shouldn&#039;t be taken seriously. They are far too thin skinned and dependent on political correctness to live a viable life in the real world.

I happen to know Sandeen personally and local gay paper won&#039;t pay any attention to Sandeen&#039;s medication induced rantings. So it should come as no surprise that the TG movement is not taken seriously not even among the gays and lesbians.

Okay stick a fork in me because I am done.

This is a nice place I shall have to visit from time to time.

Take Care All.

S

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This shows that the transgenders shouldn&#8217;t be taken seriously. They are far too thin skinned and dependent on political correctness to live a viable life in the real world.</p>
<p>I happen to know Sandeen personally and local gay paper won&#8217;t pay any attention to Sandeen&#8217;s medication induced rantings. So it should come as no surprise that the TG movement is not taken seriously not even among the gays and lesbians.</p>
<p>Okay stick a fork in me because I am done.</p>
<p>This is a nice place I shall have to visit from time to time.</p>
<p>Take Care All.</p>
<p>S</p>
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