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	<title>Comments on: Car-Free Report: To Newport Beach and Back (With An Unplanned Sidetrip To Pomona That Totally Sucked)</title>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I once tried to take the train to LA.  First, if I ever want to go to LA, I have to leave before 8:50 am, which sucks.
Second, from Orange, the trains split: one to LA, one to the IE.  I accidentally took the one to the IE.  When I got off in Anaheim Hills, my only options were to wait like 5 hours for a train coming the other way, or cab it home.  I did the latter.
Third, Metrolink SUCKS for n00bs.  Their schedule isn&#039;t very easy to read right off the bat......which is why I went the wrong way.
Last, what&#039;s with the jacked up times?????  So I HAVE to leave before 9 in order to be in LA before 3pm, and if I should take the 8:50 train from Orange, I&#039;ll have 5 minutes at best to find the Burbank-bound train.  Which, as I&#039;m a n00b, would be unlikely that I&#039;d make it.  So I&#039;d be stuck at Union Station for 2 hours.  Never mind that if I wanted to train to LA for the night, I&#039;m screwed on getting home after 8pm!
Dammit.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once tried to take the train to LA.  First, if I ever want to go to LA, I have to leave before 8:50 am, which sucks.<br />
Second, from Orange, the trains split: one to LA, one to the IE.  I accidentally took the one to the IE.  When I got off in Anaheim Hills, my only options were to wait like 5 hours for a train coming the other way, or cab it home.  I did the latter.<br />
Third, Metrolink SUCKS for n00bs.  Their schedule isn&#8217;t very easy to read right off the bat&#8230;&#8230;which is why I went the wrong way.<br />
Last, what&#8217;s with the jacked up times?????  So I HAVE to leave before 9 in order to be in LA before 3pm, and if I should take the 8:50 train from Orange, I&#8217;ll have 5 minutes at best to find the Burbank-bound train.  Which, as I&#8217;m a n00b, would be unlikely that I&#8217;d make it.  So I&#8217;d be stuck at Union Station for 2 hours.  Never mind that if I wanted to train to LA for the night, I&#8217;m screwed on getting home after 8pm!<br />
Dammit.</p>
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		<title>By: browne</title>
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		<dc:creator>browne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Of course being that I’m an idiot and a Metrolink noob and neither Union Station nor Metrolink wastes much time, effort, personnel or adequate signage shepherding its idiot noob passengers, I unwittingly ended up on the Inland Empire train out of Union Station.&quot; Will

No you are not an idiot this is a common problem.

On my random how to get from Union station to Riverside (via) Pasadena I pointed out this bs quirk. I actually put this in bold,&quot;Make sure you&#039;re on the right train, one goes to Orange County.&quot; And this is something that should be fixed, since no one thinks this is an important thing to announce and I sort of think it is. Even in NY they announce where you are going and people are used to taking the train there.

http://www.thebusbench.com/2008/09/random-how-to-r.html

Browne

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Of course being that I’m an idiot and a Metrolink noob and neither Union Station nor Metrolink wastes much time, effort, personnel or adequate signage shepherding its idiot noob passengers, I unwittingly ended up on the Inland Empire train out of Union Station.&#8221; Will</p>
<p>No you are not an idiot this is a common problem.</p>
<p>On my random how to get from Union station to Riverside (via) Pasadena I pointed out this bs quirk. I actually put this in bold,&#8221;Make sure you&#8217;re on the right train, one goes to Orange County.&#8221; And this is something that should be fixed, since no one thinks this is an important thing to announce and I sort of think it is. Even in NY they announce where you are going and people are used to taking the train there.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thebusbench.com/2008/09/random-how-to-r.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thebusbench.com/2008/09/random-how-to-r.html</a></p>
<p>Browne</p>
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		<title>By: WILL•I•AM CAMPBELL</title>
		<link>http://blogging.la/2008/12/08/carfree-report-to-newport-beach-and-back-with-an-unplanned-sidetrip-to-pomona-that-totally-sucked/comment-page-1/#comment-38084</link>
		<dc:creator>WILL•I•AM CAMPBELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re on Fej. I definitely see a non-biz daytrip to NB at some point in my future and your tips about the Tustin stop and route will make things much more enjoyable.

The cam I&#039;m using is a Canon SD1000 rigged upside down to an old handlebar headlight mount. I then flip the footage upright in Quicktime.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re on Fej. I definitely see a non-biz daytrip to NB at some point in my future and your tips about the Tustin stop and route will make things much more enjoyable.</p>
<p>The cam I&#8217;m using is a Canon SD1000 rigged upside down to an old handlebar headlight mount. I then flip the footage upright in Quicktime.</p>
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		<title>By: fejsez</title>
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		<dc:creator>fejsez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are heading to Newport again, I would suggest going one stop further to the Tustin station. Head east on Edinger (which turns into Irvine Center Drive) until you get to the bike path at Harvard. (option for on or off street path) Take it south, and follow the path till it runs by the riverbed, which will take you down by UCI and to Jamboree. From there you can continue on the Back Bay Loop to the Hyatt/PCH.
The City of Irvine has a great map of their pat system &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cityofirvine.org/civica/filebank/blobdload.asp?BlobID=8767&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; and the Orange County Transit Authority has one &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.octa.net/bikeways_map.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;

If I&#039;m off next time your down, I will join you for a ride.

BTW, which camera are you using?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are heading to Newport again, I would suggest going one stop further to the Tustin station. Head east on Edinger (which turns into Irvine Center Drive) until you get to the bike path at Harvard. (option for on or off street path) Take it south, and follow the path till it runs by the riverbed, which will take you down by UCI and to Jamboree. From there you can continue on the Back Bay Loop to the Hyatt/PCH.<br />
The City of Irvine has a great map of their pat system <a href="http://www.cityofirvine.org/civica/filebank/blobdload.asp?BlobID=8767" rel="nofollow">Here</a> and the Orange County Transit Authority has one <a href="http://www.octa.net/bikeways_map.aspx" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
<p>If I&#8217;m off next time your down, I will join you for a ride.</p>
<p>BTW, which camera are you using?</p>
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		<title>By: evan</title>
		<link>http://blogging.la/2008/12/08/carfree-report-to-newport-beach-and-back-with-an-unplanned-sidetrip-to-pomona-that-totally-sucked/comment-page-1/#comment-38082</link>
		<dc:creator>evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow--yeah, MacArthur is basically a freeway in some stretches...four lanes on each side, and most of the drivers going 60mph+.  You&#039;re a brave man!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8211;yeah, MacArthur is basically a freeway in some stretches&#8230;four lanes on each side, and most of the drivers going 60mph+.  You&#8217;re a brave man!</p>
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		<title>By: WILL•I•AM CAMPBELL</title>
		<link>http://blogging.la/2008/12/08/carfree-report-to-newport-beach-and-back-with-an-unplanned-sidetrip-to-pomona-that-totally-sucked/comment-page-1/#comment-38081</link>
		<dc:creator>WILL•I•AM CAMPBELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Fraz and Darleene!

David: A leisurely roll on beach cruisers between Orange and the sea to me would make for a lengthy roundtrip (probably around 20 miles or so), but to me would be an ideal use of the Santa Ana River Bikeway. You should definitely give it a try. About the only resistance you&#039;ll meet are whatever inclines coming out from under an overpass. I&#039;d recommend starting in the morning to better avoid any onshore headwinds that have a tendency to kick up in the afternoons. Those can be a real drag.

Fezjez: It&#039;s a deal -- and there&#039;s an off-street bike trail?  I would&#039;ve been all over that had I known. Instead my entire on-street route between Santa Ana and Newport Beach was as follows: Grand south to Edinger. East on Edinger to Red Hill. South on Red Hill to MacArthur. East on Macarthur to Jamboree. Jamboree to the hotel just before PCH.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Fraz and Darleene!</p>
<p>David: A leisurely roll on beach cruisers between Orange and the sea to me would make for a lengthy roundtrip (probably around 20 miles or so), but to me would be an ideal use of the Santa Ana River Bikeway. You should definitely give it a try. About the only resistance you&#8217;ll meet are whatever inclines coming out from under an overpass. I&#8217;d recommend starting in the morning to better avoid any onshore headwinds that have a tendency to kick up in the afternoons. Those can be a real drag.</p>
<p>Fezjez: It&#8217;s a deal &#8212; and there&#8217;s an off-street bike trail?  I would&#8217;ve been all over that had I known. Instead my entire on-street route between Santa Ana and Newport Beach was as follows: Grand south to Edinger. East on Edinger to Red Hill. South on Red Hill to MacArthur. East on Macarthur to Jamboree. Jamboree to the hotel just before PCH.</p>
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		<title>By: fejsez</title>
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		<dc:creator>fejsez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you ever have to come down again, let me know. I ride around OC a lot, and can tell you the ins and outs.
That Business area at night sucks. Did you take Jamboree all the way down? or the off street  bike trail?
I bet those same fuckers that crowd my bike lane on a uphill curve on a daily basis.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you ever have to come down again, let me know. I ride around OC a lot, and can tell you the ins and outs.<br />
That Business area at night sucks. Did you take Jamboree all the way down? or the off street  bike trail?<br />
I bet those same fuckers that crowd my bike lane on a uphill curve on a daily basis.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 04:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Living in Orange County I, too give you a pat-o-the-back.  it&#039;s rough sometimes.

Being that I live just a few hundred yards from the Santa Ana River Bikeway, the wife and I have considered riding from Orange to the beach.  Is it too grueling for beach cruisers??

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Living in Orange County I, too give you a pat-o-the-back.  it&#8217;s rough sometimes.</p>
<p>Being that I live just a few hundred yards from the Santa Ana River Bikeway, the wife and I have considered riding from Orange to the beach.  Is it too grueling for beach cruisers??</p>
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		<title>By: darleene</title>
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		<dc:creator>darleene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 04:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are a brave, brave man to attempt biking in Orange County.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are a brave, brave man to attempt biking in Orange County.</p>
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		<title>By: frazgo</title>
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		<dc:creator>frazgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 03:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admire your stick-to-it-ness.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admire your stick-to-it-ness.</p>
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