well finally Wanda Sykes said it best…….Just before the Nov. 4 election, Sykes talked about homophobia within the black community on The Ellen DeGeneres Show, acknowledging there are differences between the black civil rights movement and the gay civil rights movement, but saying, “discrimination is discrimination, and of all people, black people should know about discrimination.”

game, set, match!

No need for you to invoke the interracial marriage angle. That is no longer the case with the Mormons and their most recent offenses are not allowing black people join their church until 1978 (since we were the descendents of Cain according to them and that somehow equates to badness) and that black people couldn’t be leaders of their church until the 90s.

You want to talk about race now? You are disturbed at black people’s treatement by the Mormon Church…HA HA HA!!! You did not and don’t give a darn about how people of color are treated. You care about gay people? You only care that they dared to give money against an unpopular choice within your circle of friend who probably have absolutely no problem being bigoted to other group of people.

And if you really want to invoke something that people on this board can relate to. How about undocumented immigrants? You were offensive guy number one on that issue, on this very board. Remember the “illegal” vs whatever other bs. Remember that? many of us had to get on here and explain to you why calling people “illegal” was a slur and not cool.

Do you not think attitudes like that foster this very thing? Many people in this like bringing up the poem by Martin Niemoller, “First They Came.” Yet they don’t understand it. You don’t have to go to the 50s or the 60s or the South. You self righteous LA bigots. You can go to LA right now and find the first people they came for in this modern day era of ignorance. Undocumented immigrants. Slaves early aught style.

You and people like you said nothing and the forcess that hate built up strength so you can blame attitudes such as yours for the Yes on 8. This ok to hate people and to dehumanize people because they are not exactly like you.

That is what you should be invoking here. Invoke your own ugly bigotry. I guess though it’s more popular to be a bigot towards undocumented immigrants than it is towards people who are your friends.

I find your stance on this insanely amusing and insanely stained with bs skidmarks.

Bigotry is wrong all of the time not just when it has to do with a group of people you think matter a little bit more in your world.

Browne

or am i to assume all of these high-and-mighty newborn activists wear nothing but the adbusters shoes and american apparel tees and eat locally grown fair trade food all the time everywhere they go on their refurbished fixed-gears? maybe they brought in their own food when the went to el coyote, too. all of them. who knows, i’ve never eaten there but i’m sure the owners aren’t that socially conscious. i know i can’t afford to be.

it’s awful that this tiny, mean woman has such little respect for her clientele but i’m sure for every one of her there are plenty of down-to-earth, pro-gay employees who live off of the tips you give them. please please go protest and go litigate but use some perspective with this el coyote crap.

My signs:
“Happily Every After for Everyone”
“Equal Respect and Dignity of Marriage is a Basic Civil Right” (not the catchiest, but a quote from In re Marriage opinion written by CA Supreme Court Justice Ronald M. George.)

Unfortunately I’m sick and can’t go … someone else will raise my signs for me.

But I think people who are not extreme, who never where extreme and after this has died down will never be extreme, I’m sort of a little suspicious. It’s popular to be No on 8 among the pseudo progressive online armchair activist types, but what about undocumented immigrants, what about sexism, what about racism, what about all of this consumer culture what about all of the other things…I think this is all very interesting. I think some people are using gay people, so they can be popular.

People who have never ever brought up human rights issues or animal rights ever, getting all aggro?!!! That sort of does look like in my opinion like a mob mentality, because is that really who you are?

I boycott, ban and ethically consume all of the time, and bitch about all kinds of things but it’s a universal type thing not this one issue, but hey maybe all of these No on 8 people will speak up on other issues now.

For some reason though, I kind of doubt it.

Browne