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	<title>Comments on: Video: El Coyote owner begs gays to keep spending money at her restaurant</title>
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	<description>Lizard people dude. Seriously.</description>
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		<title>By: browne</title>
		<link>http://blogging.la/2008/11/13/video-el-coyote-owner-begs-gays-to-keep-spending-money-at-her-restaurant/comment-page-1/#comment-44006</link>
		<dc:creator>browne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I know we aren&#039;t going to play this, &quot;we weren&#039;t racist, we were talking about everyone&quot; on the LA blogosphere.

Lets see we got black people &quot;we hate you&quot; pieces from Andrew Sullivan, Dan Savage, pretty much every mainstream blog that never ever brings up black people (accept for when we rob you) also joined in on the fun. All you have to do is google between Nov3-Nov8. And only after the No on 8 people hired a PR firm who probably told them to check themselves did the Mormons the people who initially funded this vile prop get called out. Right after the election it was all about the CNN poll that turned out to be false.

So please spare me with the, its not about the blame game. For a week after the election it pretty much was and it was mainly a finger pointed at the African-American community.

I have never seen the word n****r come up so much as I did after this passed and I don&#039;t think it was meant in the n***a way.
Browne

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I know we aren&#8217;t going to play this, &#8220;we weren&#8217;t racist, we were talking about everyone&#8221; on the LA blogosphere.</p>
<p>Lets see we got black people &#8220;we hate you&#8221; pieces from Andrew Sullivan, Dan Savage, pretty much every mainstream blog that never ever brings up black people (accept for when we rob you) also joined in on the fun. All you have to do is google between Nov3-Nov8. And only after the No on 8 people hired a PR firm who probably told them to check themselves did the Mormons the people who initially funded this vile prop get called out. Right after the election it was all about the CNN poll that turned out to be false.</p>
<p>So please spare me with the, its not about the blame game. For a week after the election it pretty much was and it was mainly a finger pointed at the African-American community.</p>
<p>I have never seen the word n****r come up so much as I did after this passed and I don&#8217;t think it was meant in the n***a way.<br />
Browne</p>
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		<title>By: theuglyamerican</title>
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		<dc:creator>theuglyamerican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Britannica Concise Encyclopedia: extortion&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Unlawful exaction of money or property through intimidation or undue exercise of authority. It may include threats of physical harm, criminal prosecution, or public exposure. Some forms of threat, especially those made in writing, are occasionally singled out for separate statutory treatment as blackmail.&lt;/i&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Britannica Concise Encyclopedia: extortion</i></p>
<p><i>Unlawful exaction of money or property through intimidation or undue exercise of authority. It may include threats of physical harm, criminal prosecution, or public exposure. Some forms of threat, especially those made in writing, are occasionally singled out for separate statutory treatment as blackmail.</i></p>
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		<title>By: browne</title>
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		<dc:creator>browne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chal I&#039;m waiting for your ironic post on the 70% of black people voting for Prop 8 which turned out to not be true. When is that coming?

Browne

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chal I&#8217;m waiting for your ironic post on the 70% of black people voting for Prop 8 which turned out to not be true. When is that coming?</p>
<p>Browne</p>
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		<title>By: nikramirez</title>
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		<dc:creator>nikramirez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, let me preface this quickly by saying I voted no on Prop 8, think it was completely insane and am very disheartened that it passed. But it was my right as an American to vote no on it because that&#039;s what I believe is the right thing to do.

I also believe that bullying this woman into going back on her vote is completely unfair and very, very troubling. She had every right to vote the way she did, just as those of us who voted against it did. If you no longer wish to support her as a political statement, that is completely your right. But pushing her to donate money to a cause she doesn&#039;t believe in is pretty disgusting and doesn&#039;t really prove much of anything in the end.

I understand the importance of having local businesspeople who support the rights of their patrons, but I can&#039;t help but think that time would be more well spent writing to congresspeople, organizing grassroots support for the overturning of the bill and spending time in other communities teaching tolerance and acceptance. This is all getting very emotional and people need to get their heads on straight if they want anything to change.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, let me preface this quickly by saying I voted no on Prop 8, think it was completely insane and am very disheartened that it passed. But it was my right as an American to vote no on it because that&#8217;s what I believe is the right thing to do.</p>
<p>I also believe that bullying this woman into going back on her vote is completely unfair and very, very troubling. She had every right to vote the way she did, just as those of us who voted against it did. If you no longer wish to support her as a political statement, that is completely your right. But pushing her to donate money to a cause she doesn&#8217;t believe in is pretty disgusting and doesn&#8217;t really prove much of anything in the end.</p>
<p>I understand the importance of having local businesspeople who support the rights of their patrons, but I can&#8217;t help but think that time would be more well spent writing to congresspeople, organizing grassroots support for the overturning of the bill and spending time in other communities teaching tolerance and acceptance. This is all getting very emotional and people need to get their heads on straight if they want anything to change.</p>
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		<title>By: mgad</title>
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		<dc:creator>mgad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>boycotts is probably the single best way to change the minds of people or even to get them to listen.

Remember when Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat on the bus?  That was the incident that started all black people boycotting the buses in Alabama right?  That&#039;s how things change when people realize it effects their pocket book!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>boycotts is probably the single best way to change the minds of people or even to get them to listen.</p>
<p>Remember when Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat on the bus?  That was the incident that started all black people boycotting the buses in Alabama right?  That&#8217;s how things change when people realize it effects their pocket book!</p>
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		<title>By: stumark</title>
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		<dc:creator>stumark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate her age and sensitivity, but this is a civil rights battle and we need to put feelings aside - This is bigger than the individual.

Also, is anyone working on a boycott of the Mormon-owned 100.3 FM (that new station in town?) - I used to love it until I learned who the owners are.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate her age and sensitivity, but this is a civil rights battle and we need to put feelings aside &#8211; This is bigger than the individual.</p>
<p>Also, is anyone working on a boycott of the Mormon-owned 100.3 FM (that new station in town?) &#8211; I used to love it until I learned who the owners are.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Mason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There may be some agreement about the efficacy of singling out El Coyote, but the goal isn&#039;t to change hearts, it&#039;s to change behavior. Obviously, we often don&#039;t know what lies in the hearts of people who own businesses we support, unless they do something of public record such as the Yes on 8 contributions.  At that point, we have the right (some would say the responsibility) to react, again keeping in mind that it&#039;s important to choose one&#039;s fights and one&#039;s targets wisely for fairness and effectiveness.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There may be some agreement about the efficacy of singling out El Coyote, but the goal isn&#8217;t to change hearts, it&#8217;s to change behavior. Obviously, we often don&#8217;t know what lies in the hearts of people who own businesses we support, unless they do something of public record such as the Yes on 8 contributions.  At that point, we have the right (some would say the responsibility) to react, again keeping in mind that it&#8217;s important to choose one&#8217;s fights and one&#8217;s targets wisely for fairness and effectiveness.</p>
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		<title>By: Chal Pivik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chal Pivik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cover of the current Advocate, the gay issues magazine, asks, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.advocate.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Is gay the new black?&quot;&lt;/a&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cover of the current Advocate, the gay issues magazine, asks, <a href="http://www.advocate.com/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Is gay the new black?&#8221;</a></p>
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		<title>By: lucindamichele</title>
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		<dc:creator>lucindamichele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Aartvark said, I think this woman was singled out because it&#039;s pretty easy to accomplish. But is it a good use of our time &amp; energy?

You can pressure people all you want to publicly retract their statements &amp; make a demonstration of contrition, but will you really have changed how they feel in their heart of hearts? Not by berating someone &amp; publicly shaming them, you won&#039;t.

The only way to do that is with compassion, understanding, &amp; dialogue.

Frankly, IMHO the yes on 8 people won because they had more money &amp; more fear-tactic ads than we did from the start.

I think the best way to fight for our cause isn&#039;t by witch-hunting &amp; stringing up the easiest small-time targets. It&#039;s by investing time, energy, and yes, money, in PACs, in outreach, in a public information campaign, in a strong human-rights lobby in Congress, and media exposure.

Of course that&#039;s a lot less glamorous than raging against the machine that is El Coyote.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Aartvark said, I think this woman was singled out because it&#8217;s pretty easy to accomplish. But is it a good use of our time &amp; energy?</p>
<p>You can pressure people all you want to publicly retract their statements &amp; make a demonstration of contrition, but will you really have changed how they feel in their heart of hearts? Not by berating someone &amp; publicly shaming them, you won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>The only way to do that is with compassion, understanding, &amp; dialogue.</p>
<p>Frankly, IMHO the yes on 8 people won because they had more money &amp; more fear-tactic ads than we did from the start.</p>
<p>I think the best way to fight for our cause isn&#8217;t by witch-hunting &amp; stringing up the easiest small-time targets. It&#8217;s by investing time, energy, and yes, money, in PACs, in outreach, in a public information campaign, in a strong human-rights lobby in Congress, and media exposure.</p>
<p>Of course that&#8217;s a lot less glamorous than raging against the machine that is El Coyote.</p>
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		<title>By: rodger</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing I can add that Lucinda and Fraz haven&#039;t already eloquently and thoughtfully said.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing I can add that Lucinda and Fraz haven&#8217;t already eloquently and thoughtfully said.</p>
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