I’m not speaking for anyone. I am speaking for me. I say all human beings are individuals. Everyone remembers that when it has to do with white people, but they don’t seem to remember that when it has to do with minorities whether they be black or gay or latino or women…

And you don’t get to be a spokesperson for anyone but Chal, you can say whatever you want, but I’m not going to take what you say and assume that other gay people think like you.

And I think Chal that when you say that you being a minority gives you a special insight on issues of fairness it is a slap in the face to progressive white straight white men.

I don’t like this 1980s diversity model that acts like minorities know all and don’t need to be educated on issues of tolerance and people who aren’t members of minority group are the only people who need to be talked to in regards to diversity. We see in this election that isn’t true. The special insight of which you speak Chal and that idea is exactly why many people of color were not educated on gay civil rights issues. Their prejudice assisted in the passage of Prop 8 and people’s prejudice of the magical ethnic person and the falseness of that is what made people think they didn’t have to educate that segment of the community.

Your biology doesn’t make you more understanding your willingness to listen and learn does. I would take a progressive straight white man over a close-minded bisexual minority woman who doesn’t think any day of the week.

I belong to the people who think, that’s the group I’m part of and anyone can be a member.

Good lord……and you wonder why blacks aren’t down with this shit.

Please, for the love of humanity, stop comparing yourself to blacks by using civil rights terminology. It REALLY pisses them off.

Gay Republicans’ semantic contortions as they justify their voting records speak to this.

You mean like Obama/Biden saying Yes to No gay marriage? Talk about your contortionists.

Apologies for choosing to vote on the issues that are most important to me rather than playing the victim card and throwing hissy fits whenever the people’s vote doesn’t go my way.

We gay conservatives are funny like that.

BTW, didn’t I hear something about Democrats winning major victories in a recent election Frankly, I’d still be celebrating that rather than pissing and moaning about one proposition.

Raining on everyone else’s parade isn’t going to win you any converts. Especially those whose vote you just took for granted.

Lamentably, there is a history of homophobia specific to the black community, be it based in religion or the ridiculous reasoning of black homophobes who claim black people being gay undermines the proliferation of blacks as a race. Whatever tack bigotry takes, I was saddened by the results of that poll and it is relevant to the situation of a black man being elected president in the same election. I’m just a gay white guy who pointed it out.

Personally, I feel that being a member of an oppressed minority has given me insight into the nature of being on the receiving end of oppression. I know what it’s like to be called names and to run faster than people intending to beat me to a bloody pulp because of the gender to which I am attracted. Individuals of a group to an extent can acknowledge, if not adhere to, the notion of a group mentality when deciding how to cast their vote. Gay Republicans’ semantic contortions as they justify their voting records speak to this.

And if you, Browne, can say blacks are individuals as you speak for them as a group, may I speak for the entire gay population for a moment and say that we may not be saintly, especially if we’re priests (joke! sort of,) but there are magical riches we mavericky gay folks are bringin’ to the world? And we’re happy to spread the wealth around.

Much can be blamed on the religious extremists out there who spread some pretty nasty laws about what would happen if the proposition failed.

None of it is pretty. I am glad to see the overall positive demonstrations and even our own guv’s dismat at the results. IF the protesters keep it sane maybe we can get the justice needed once and for all in the courts to ban the bigotry.

It’s a classic tactic to divide a population with infighting. Blaming black people for this isn’t productive at all. Instead, educating religious populations that this is a Civil and Human Rights issue is more important. Don’t blame any race, blame the organizations who have been pushing for this ban since the beginning. The LDS is a good place to start.

Then swing on over to invalidateprop8.org and give a little cash, y’all.

It is obvious that you have problems that are within the scope of psychiatric help.

And if you think I’m suppose to get that Lezgull is a combination of the word Lesbian and seagull, well, hell I thought Lezgull was your last name. Had I known this was one of those pseudonyms, I probably would be even less interested in talking to you than I am now.

Again what’s this problem you are having with me, oh yeah you’re a prejudice self-hating minority with mental health issues and you need to show people how not like “us” you are.

Great job. I’m waiting for the moderate Obama supporting posse of tolerance to come around to defend your ignorant views right about now.

Seriously I’m done now with this thread.

Browne

You obviously think this is a joke. I am no longer going to engage you in dialogue.

Browne