Great news! Thanks for posting it.

If you’re able to lay your hands on a copy of that lawsuit, or even a link to it somewhere, I’d be curious to read it.

If I knew the plaintiffs name or a case number I’d order my own copy from the courts.

Here’s how it works, folks: the same former immobile voters (the black and Latino volting bloc) who helped give us Presidential-Elect Obama were also the contributing pass on Proposition 8. Exit polling data today revealed, as I knew it would, that 7 out of 10 black voters and more than half of Latino voters backed the ballot initiative. Blacks and Latinos, overall, vote blue but many of them think red; traditional family values is a highly rated priority with both groups but they’re not stupid, far from it, as demonstrated by their heavy support of Obama and shunning of the Republican ticket.

So, the message here, to quote the late Dr. Gonzo, is “buy the ticket and take the ride.”

I’m just going to point out that while I am very disturbed by the high Yes on 8 by African-American voters, that was some total bullshit, that black people are six percent of the California.

That’s a pretty small number.

There are more white people, Asian people, Latino people and gay people who are in California, so I’m going to say the black community might have been the water boy in the fight for prop 8, but we were definitely NOT players in that game. (On the good side that also means that in California the Obama win had nothing to do with black people, because again we don’t have the numbers to be major players in that way in this part of the country.) In general Prop 8 passage was all formerly Bush Country. Take a look at the polls and the numbers, almost all of Bush Country you know the part of California way outside civilization and even up North more inland went Yes on Prop 8, so before everyone starts rounding up the posse I suggest everyone talk to their aunts and uncles in Modoc, Plumas, Mariposa, Sierra, Kern and Orange County places I rarely see black people and only see Latino in certain parts and only in Orange County.

Browne

In general I’m saying this is a California problem. It’s not a black and Latino problem. It’s an overall problem. If we don’t look at this in a large way, we’re going to have some real problems. In general like with the passage of 187 and 209 and when Pete Wilson just randomly took it upon himself to make legal status an issue in regards to getting a driver’s license we in California owing to the isolating car culture have a problem with talking to people and as with other issues that were civil right issues we need to start that conversation before divisive proposition land on the ballot.

If not this is going to continue to happen over and over again.

Roger – just for you:“Politics is the art of controlling your environment.” Little did you know I am a huge fan of HST.

Browne, good points on who swayed 8 regarding the voting blocks divided on racial lines. I have to agree it was the rural counties that put 8 over the top. The OC wasn’t even a factor as I read they had about 35% turnout. That scares me when you look at the 85% turnout in LA.

I have to say Browne I enjoy your points, well thought out and argued. Then again I’ve always been a fan of a sharp mind, even on those times we don’t agree.