They have already forced most working-class folks to live outside the city and commute in to work, which does far greater damage to L.A.’s health and tranquility than a single freeway – even the hated 110 – ever will.

Last time I recall reading a stat (can’t recall the source), housing market reports said that only 13 percent of people living in Los Angeles can afford to own a home here. Maybe the housing market downturn will help raise that number … maybe not.

To me it all has to do with destination, there are places on the 210 that I might want to go to, so it can’t be the devil. Maybe an ex-boyfriend’s house that you kind of still occasionally see, but really shouldn’t because he’s not good for you, that’s the 210.

I can’t really think of any stops on the 405 that I want to go to. I even hate LAX.

I fly out of Burbank whenever I can even if it costs more money.

My alma mater Mount St Mary’s is along the 405. That’s pretty much the only thing that gives me good memories about the 405. I always have to tell a little college story and everyone around me gets very annoyed by that, so that’s even a bad thing.

I remember when I graduated I thought, “Wow this is going to be so great, I won’t have to write papers anymore…” Yeah I was a little out of it, I forgot about the whole making money is actually slightly harder than writing papers and taking exams…

Browne

In the evening I can save 30-45 minutes by taking side streets from central Pasadena to Monrovia.

The Pasadena section of the 110 is so old that when built the short onramps weren’t as much an issue as the speed limit was something like 45 and not many cars go much more than that. It wasn’t until the big horsepower race of the 50′s that speed of traffic on the freeway became an issue and the shortness/stop signs on the onramps became a siginficant issue. Still I love the old 110 as it is fun to drive.

Why aren’t more people dying on that thing, but as far as traffic I think the 405 going to the valley or the airport is like satan’s driveway or something, if there was road to hell, the 405 has got to be one of the ways to get there…at least the 110 is beautiful, beautiful and useless, except late at night.

Browne

Buying a house, on the other hand? Sadly, I can’t imagine ever being able to afford a house anywhere that I’d want to live in L.A., and my income is more than the average family of four in the United States. There is something terribly wrong with that.

Either way, housing prices suck. 1/2 million dollar homes and I still have to deal with noise, trash, graffiti, guns, and gangs. I’m with Marx: Property is theft!