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		<title>By: Algernon Bordsong</title>
		<link>http://blogging.la/2008/02/20/los-angeles-bus-virgin-no-more/comment-page-1/#comment-1907</link>
		<dc:creator>Algernon Bordsong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to say that this is some really tremendous citizenship journalism by Browne. It&#039;s a pleasure listening to people hold forth with earnest and expert discourse, be it on baseball cards or space travel or LA public transportation or j&#039;nais ce qua i.e., John McPhee&#039;s career.
Tally Ho Browne!
You are blogging.la&#039;s Emerson admist a sea of Hawthornes.
Good stuff.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to say that this is some really tremendous citizenship journalism by Browne. It&#8217;s a pleasure listening to people hold forth with earnest and expert discourse, be it on baseball cards or space travel or LA public transportation or j&#8217;nais ce qua i.e., John McPhee&#8217;s career.<br />
Tally Ho Browne!<br />
You are blogging.la&#8217;s Emerson admist a sea of Hawthornes.<br />
Good stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: johnk</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, it&#039;s tough taking the bus in parts of downtown where there&#039;s lots of transitional housing.  Some buses run right past if you don&#039;t wave the fool down!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, it&#8217;s tough taking the bus in parts of downtown where there&#8217;s lots of transitional housing.  Some buses run right past if you don&#8217;t wave the fool down!</p>
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		<title>By: Browne</title>
		<link>http://blogging.la/2008/02/20/los-angeles-bus-virgin-no-more/comment-page-1/#comment-1905</link>
		<dc:creator>Browne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I&#039;m not sure why but the mta.net site doesn&#039;t show any of the DASH options,&quot; Chavo.

It will show the Dash option, but mainly in Hollywood and mainly if you change the option from min to max of what you are willing to walk.

The Dash is a good option BUT ONLY inside of downtown, the Dash is a bit iffy in regards to time. The Dash either runs very well, like the downtown Dashes or very erratically like the Los Feliz Dash.

I would suggest avoiding the Dash in a time of urgency when outside of the downtown vicinity.

It&#039;s a horrible work option or appointment option. It&#039;s good if you&#039;re leaving happy hour or going to happy hour and it happens to come by and you can take it up the street, but I wouldn&#039;t wait for it or depend on it to make a movie or anything.

I tried to take the Los Feliz Dash several times (my old hood, which I miss ALOT, downtown is not nearly as fun as those ads make it seem) to get places and that thing never ever came on time, even the first one of the morning.

It would pi** me off. I called them so often yelling at them in regards to their lack of keeping a schedule. I think that I was instrumental in making it so that the Dash no longer takes calls.

Yelling at people doesn&#039;t make the bus come any faster, but I feel this way if you&#039;re going to make me suffer with bad customer service I&#039;m going to enjoy myself by calling you and mocking you. It&#039;s childish, but it&#039;s a sort of an immediate gratification.

Browne

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m not sure why but the mta.net site doesn&#8217;t show any of the DASH options,&#8221; Chavo.</p>
<p>It will show the Dash option, but mainly in Hollywood and mainly if you change the option from min to max of what you are willing to walk.</p>
<p>The Dash is a good option BUT ONLY inside of downtown, the Dash is a bit iffy in regards to time. The Dash either runs very well, like the downtown Dashes or very erratically like the Los Feliz Dash.</p>
<p>I would suggest avoiding the Dash in a time of urgency when outside of the downtown vicinity.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a horrible work option or appointment option. It&#8217;s good if you&#8217;re leaving happy hour or going to happy hour and it happens to come by and you can take it up the street, but I wouldn&#8217;t wait for it or depend on it to make a movie or anything.</p>
<p>I tried to take the Los Feliz Dash several times (my old hood, which I miss ALOT, downtown is not nearly as fun as those ads make it seem) to get places and that thing never ever came on time, even the first one of the morning.</p>
<p>It would pi** me off. I called them so often yelling at them in regards to their lack of keeping a schedule. I think that I was instrumental in making it so that the Dash no longer takes calls.</p>
<p>Yelling at people doesn&#8217;t make the bus come any faster, but I feel this way if you&#8217;re going to make me suffer with bad customer service I&#8217;m going to enjoy myself by calling you and mocking you. It&#8217;s childish, but it&#8217;s a sort of an immediate gratification.</p>
<p>Browne</p>
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		<title>By: Browne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Browne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with taking the bus alone, isn&#039;t necessarily the bus itself, but the bus stop. (I had a guy attempt to relieve himself at a bus stop that was a bit out of the well traveled path in my vicinity and I&#039;m not talking about taking a whizz.) If it&#039;s a straight shoot, you&#039;ll be fine, depending on where you are going, but the bus up Santa Monica, Sunset, Wilshire, you should be fine.

The problem is waiting on the bus stop, now that can be a dangerous experience if it&#039;s in an area with no people.

I would suggest avoiding that.

Sunset and Labrea, fine. San Pedro and 6th, not so good at one in the morning.

Rule of thumb if you wouldn&#039;t park your car somewhere, don&#039;t sit at the busstop alone there.

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Metro tip, if it&#039;s after 9pm the bus driver will drop you off where ever you need as long as it&#039;s on the route.

So say you&#039;re going to the Little Joy on a Sunday and you&#039;re taking the two, well what you can do is tell the driver to drop you off at Portia (which is the street that it intersects) instead of Echo Park blvd.

Also another tip. Highland Park busses run very badly and cabs won&#039;t pick you up. If you are at a Highland Park function you may have to bike it and legit cab companies will not pick you up, you will have to get a gypsy cab to take you home.

The phone number is at the Burger Stand that is on San Fernando Road and Avenue 31, you can of course take the goldline and the downtown busses may run ok, but if you are going into Hollywood, Los Feliz, East Hollywood area. The bus they claim will come will never, ever come.

So at 1am, think about that. The MTA runs once an hour after around 11pm, you could end up waiting two hours if you miss the train.

Get the number of a cab and a renegade cab in case of an emergency. I can&#039;t put the number of the renegade cab, since you know I don&#039;t want them to get busted, but I&#039;ve directed you pretty well how to find it.

If you are a woman taking the bus at night you must have the number of a cab company in case things get too crazy, but again on the major roads like Sunset, Santa Monica, and Wilshire, this should not be a problem. The two and four run regularly (none of that once an hour weridness) even in the late night hours.

If you can&#039;t live by the rails, I suggest living by the two or four. Excellent lines, especially if you like to bar hop and have fun.

Browne

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with taking the bus alone, isn&#8217;t necessarily the bus itself, but the bus stop. (I had a guy attempt to relieve himself at a bus stop that was a bit out of the well traveled path in my vicinity and I&#8217;m not talking about taking a whizz.) If it&#8217;s a straight shoot, you&#8217;ll be fine, depending on where you are going, but the bus up Santa Monica, Sunset, Wilshire, you should be fine.</p>
<p>The problem is waiting on the bus stop, now that can be a dangerous experience if it&#8217;s in an area with no people.</p>
<p>I would suggest avoiding that.</p>
<p>Sunset and Labrea, fine. San Pedro and 6th, not so good at one in the morning.</p>
<p>Rule of thumb if you wouldn&#8217;t park your car somewhere, don&#8217;t sit at the busstop alone there.</p>
<p>___________________________________<br />
Metro tip, if it&#8217;s after 9pm the bus driver will drop you off where ever you need as long as it&#8217;s on the route.</p>
<p>So say you&#8217;re going to the Little Joy on a Sunday and you&#8217;re taking the two, well what you can do is tell the driver to drop you off at Portia (which is the street that it intersects) instead of Echo Park blvd.</p>
<p>Also another tip. Highland Park busses run very badly and cabs won&#8217;t pick you up. If you are at a Highland Park function you may have to bike it and legit cab companies will not pick you up, you will have to get a gypsy cab to take you home.</p>
<p>The phone number is at the Burger Stand that is on San Fernando Road and Avenue 31, you can of course take the goldline and the downtown busses may run ok, but if you are going into Hollywood, Los Feliz, East Hollywood area. The bus they claim will come will never, ever come.</p>
<p>So at 1am, think about that. The MTA runs once an hour after around 11pm, you could end up waiting two hours if you miss the train.</p>
<p>Get the number of a cab and a renegade cab in case of an emergency. I can&#8217;t put the number of the renegade cab, since you know I don&#8217;t want them to get busted, but I&#8217;ve directed you pretty well how to find it.</p>
<p>If you are a woman taking the bus at night you must have the number of a cab company in case things get too crazy, but again on the major roads like Sunset, Santa Monica, and Wilshire, this should not be a problem. The two and four run regularly (none of that once an hour weridness) even in the late night hours.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t live by the rails, I suggest living by the two or four. Excellent lines, especially if you like to bar hop and have fun.</p>
<p>Browne</p>
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		<title>By: jeannie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeannie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Fred!  Great MetroRiderLA site!  I just recently moved to Hollywood from The Grove area, and I am psyched to be near a subway station.  I was long obsessed with taking the subway, which was geographically not possible.  I just wish the trains ran later...it would make it easier to go Downtown for nightlife and/or use it to go to Universal or Staples Center.

I am hoping that most of the annoying contact from lurkers was due to their sense to my newness to the bus.

I&#039;ll be back on this weekend to see if I am more like an old pro!

Thanks for the tips!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Fred!  Great MetroRiderLA site!  I just recently moved to Hollywood from The Grove area, and I am psyched to be near a subway station.  I was long obsessed with taking the subway, which was geographically not possible.  I just wish the trains ran later&#8230;it would make it easier to go Downtown for nightlife and/or use it to go to Universal or Staples Center.</p>
<p>I am hoping that most of the annoying contact from lurkers was due to their sense to my newness to the bus.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be back on this weekend to see if I am more like an old pro!</p>
<p>Thanks for the tips!</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Camino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Camino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know Jeannie, it&#039;s really hard for me to speak because it&#039;s different for guys that girls I think.  I&#039;ve never felt unsafe on a bus or train late at night, but I&#039;m a guy, and generally (even though I&#039;m really incredibly excellent looking and sexy) I don&#039;t have creepy women hitting on me or anything like that.  I&#039;d recommend just following basic street smarts rules... I don&#039;t think anything bad will happen on a bus or train, but once you get off just stay aware of your surrounds, stay in lit areas, and just walk with confidence.  Carry some sort of pepper spray or something if you need some confidence in a can.

Like I said, I&#039;ve never felt unsafe, but maybe others have a different perspective.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know Jeannie, it&#8217;s really hard for me to speak because it&#8217;s different for guys that girls I think.  I&#8217;ve never felt unsafe on a bus or train late at night, but I&#8217;m a guy, and generally (even though I&#8217;m really incredibly excellent looking and sexy) I don&#8217;t have creepy women hitting on me or anything like that.  I&#8217;d recommend just following basic street smarts rules&#8230; I don&#8217;t think anything bad will happen on a bus or train, but once you get off just stay aware of your surrounds, stay in lit areas, and just walk with confidence.  Carry some sort of pepper spray or something if you need some confidence in a can.</p>
<p>Like I said, I&#8217;ve never felt unsafe, but maybe others have a different perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: jeannie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeannie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also took my first bus trip this weekend.  I&#039;m glad to read Greene&#039;s advice on avoiding the loonies.  I had a homeless lady who smelled like pee for the first part of ride and then a guy trying to get me to give him my number so we could &quot;continue this conversation&quot; on the second.

Question.  My friends were quite concerned about me taking the bus alone.  At night.  Think it&#039;s too unsafe?  It was a Friday night and my ride home was around 1:15am.  Just thought I&#039;d query some folks who actually take the bus, rather than my friends who (like me before this weekend) don&#039;t take the bus.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also took my first bus trip this weekend.  I&#8217;m glad to read Greene&#8217;s advice on avoiding the loonies.  I had a homeless lady who smelled like pee for the first part of ride and then a guy trying to get me to give him my number so we could &#8220;continue this conversation&#8221; on the second.</p>
<p>Question.  My friends were quite concerned about me taking the bus alone.  At night.  Think it&#8217;s too unsafe?  It was a Friday night and my ride home was around 1:15am.  Just thought I&#8217;d query some folks who actually take the bus, rather than my friends who (like me before this weekend) don&#8217;t take the bus.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to be a nagging bike-loving pain who can&#039;t let the inconsequential things go, I dispute PBS&#039;s assertion in regards to bike/bus safety, based on and biased from not reams of data compiled over years, but instead a single unfortunate personal experience. I&#039;ve biked alongside tetra-oodles of buses over my 20 years riding around Southern California streets and never been hit so to me it&#039;s no safer inside one or beside one. Just sayin&#039;.

Shutting up now.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to be a nagging bike-loving pain who can&#8217;t let the inconsequential things go, I dispute PBS&#8217;s assertion in regards to bike/bus safety, based on and biased from not reams of data compiled over years, but instead a single unfortunate personal experience. I&#8217;ve biked alongside tetra-oodles of buses over my 20 years riding around Southern California streets and never been hit so to me it&#8217;s no safer inside one or beside one. Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
<p>Shutting up now.</p>
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		<title>By: EL CHAVO!</title>
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		<dc:creator>EL CHAVO!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure why but the mta.net site doesn&#039;t show any of the DASH options, which is only 25 cents and goes thru many places in downtown and nearby. It&#039;s another option for people to keep in mind.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ladottransit.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ladottransit.com/&lt;/a&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure why but the mta.net site doesn&#8217;t show any of the DASH options, which is only 25 cents and goes thru many places in downtown and nearby. It&#8217;s another option for people to keep in mind.<br />
<a href="http://www.ladottransit.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ladottransit.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you all for the great info and support.  I will keep it all handy and report back on the progress.  Tomorrow I&#039;m going to meet a friend at Clifton&#039;s for lunch and will take the bus!  I&#039;ll report back on it...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all for the great info and support.  I will keep it all handy and report back on the progress.  Tomorrow I&#8217;m going to meet a friend at Clifton&#8217;s for lunch and will take the bus!  I&#8217;ll report back on it&#8230;</p>
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