Pirating The Oscars

Are you planning on following The Oscars but can’t quite make the educated guesses you’d like on who might win because you haven’t seen every single one of the nominations yet? Well you are in luck because OscarTorrents is here to show you exactly where you can download every one of them from the piraty tubes of the internets. That right, it’s a torrent tracker for all this years nominations but even better it gives you the option to vote on each category and pretend you and the rest of your eye patch wearing buddies are The Academy. I know you are getting worried about those starving Hollywood filmmakers who aren’t making royalties off films downloaded online right about now, and the folks at OscarTorrents have this to say to anyone worrying about the legality of such a site:

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To those worried about downloading in case they get sued: by our calculations, your chances of getting nailed are way less than your chances of winning the lottery. Don’t think twice about it.

To all intellectual property landlords: we are aware that OscarTorrents might annoy you — but contain your righteous indignation for a while, and think: we’re only linking to torrents that already exist. Face it: your membrane has burst, and it wasn’t us who burst it. Your precious bodily fluids are escaping.

You haven’t beaten us, so why not join us? Think of a new business model that doesn’t involve overpriced pieces of plastic and skanky cinemas hawking cheap carbohydrates while relying on $6/hr projectionists who can’t keep a film in focus — not to mention insulting your audiences by (to pick a few examples) surveilling us with nightvision glasses, searching bags, 30 minutes of commercials and bombarding us with ridiculous anti-piracy propaganda. Take a look at yourselves. Is it really any wonder we’re winning?

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17 Replies to “Pirating The Oscars”

  1. What’s with the new attitude about stealing? “Your business model sucks, so it’s okay to steal your product”. That is completely indefensible. The only reason people steal is because they can. I guess these people would shoplift from Walmart too – oh, but there are security cameras in Walmart.

  2. I think they point they are making is that the movie industry as a whole has made going to the movies such an hassle that it’s kind of their fault people are turning to this kind of thing, and rather than fight a war you can’t win, maybe it would be better to work with it and find a way to benefit from it, or apply these lessons to what you are already doing.

    Personally I’d rather pay $14 to go see a movie at Arclight where it’s a throughly enjoyable experience, than watch the same movie on my laptop. That said, given the option of paying $10 to go to some other theater that is dirty, the sound is messed up, the picture is crooked, the food is expensive, the other people are talking, the theater isn’t dark, and I’m bombarded with endless ads, well, that makes my laptop look really appealing.

  3. movie theaters can, for the most part, go to hell. I’ve go netflix and i don’t need to waste my money on anything else.

  4. Well, really, we need to rethink what “stealing” is. Have you ever copied a cassette or CD from a friend? Have you ever taped a song off the radio, or a show off tv? These things are not stealing.

    Who is being deprived of a movie I “stole”? Does anyone anywhere not get to see the movie because I downloaded it? You may say that they’ve lost money – but what if I wouldn’t pay money for it anyway? I gladly buy things that I think are worth it. But some things aren’t worth buying to me. Eventually the movie will be broadcast on TV – is it stealing then?

    Information wants to be free. Sell me things that are tangible. Sell me things I can’t get on my own – the Arclight thing is a perfect example. Only a small portion of the admission is about the movie – you pay for the experience. That cannot be “stolen” or replicated. That has value.

  5. Equating illegal downloading with shoplifting is completely disingenuious.

    However, I thinks its also weak to justify illegal downloading because movie theatres or record companies suck. If you illegally copy or download something you would have paid otherwise is nothing less than theft. Trying to morally justify is hurting your soul.

    That said, I’m guilty of stealing music and TV shows. I certainly hope the movie creates a better enviornment and reasons to pursuade people to still keep coming to the movie theatre.

    High quality copying and sharing will only become easier and more prevalent, no matter what the MPAA does. They should spend more time revising their business models that stop labeling people who copy thieves and make the process more profitable.

    Unfortunately, when in movie advertising and product placement increase, and production quality drops, current illegal downloaders will need to accept at least half the blame.

  6. I disagree with you Sean. People are not stealing because the movie theater experience is bad. People are stealing because they can. If it was easy to shoplift televisions from Best Buy, people would do it, and then they would justify it by saying how much Best Buy sucks and how much they need to change the way they do business and treat their customers. But it’s not easy to shoplift televisions from Best Buy, so nobody does it. That’s all there is to it.

  7. Motive isn’t important, I was simply giving an example, the result is the same – this isn’t going away and the movie industry needs to figure out how to work with it rather than keep fighting it. And I agree with the folks above, Shoplifting is a bad comparison as it prevents someone else from buying that tangible item. If someone who is not going to see a movie at a theater downloads it they haven’t prevented anyone else from seeing the film.

  8. The “movie industry” hasn’t made going to a movie into a sucky experience, the theater owners have. Two different businesses. The home video business is driven by the studios, exhibitors are not.

    As for pirate downloading, it’s theft. Period. Change the law or abide by it — but until it’s changed, I hope they hunt you down for piracy and punish you to the fullest extent of the law.

  9. Come on, people. You’re just arguing semantics. Regardless of whether a product is tangible, a lot of people get hurt when it is stolen – everyone involved in the creation, distribution, marketing, and sale of that product. Eventually, as David pointed out, this hurts consumers too.

    I’m not here to discuss business models. Of course the entertainment industry is screwed. My point is just that people need to stop rationalizing stealing. It’s stealing. Period.

  10. So it used to be that I couldn’t read the LA Times without buying it.

    Now I can just “download” it. Time for the industry to change their business model – the toothpaste is out of the tube.

  11. Cephyn: not a valid metaphor in any way, shape or form. LA Times.com is a standalone product with its own ad revenues and revenue models. Downloaded recordings and movies are not standalone products with their own revenue models.

  12. wait, you’re telling me movies and cds aren’t their own, standalone products? are you kidding me? you don’t think movies have an ad revenue model? Ever heard of product placement? please. and since movies are only watched in theaters upon release, that’s a model of advertisement right there. you can’t separate them.

    but that’s cool lee. you have your ideas, and that’s fine. Of course, its stodgy ideas like that which are causing the studios and the music industry to become irrelevant. youtube will make stars of people. bands have grown huge followings on myspace before ever being signed. it’s a new world. allowing people to get ahold of what you make builds an audience, it doesn’t detract from one. time to rethink.

    of course, i’m sure you never speed or jaywalk or break all manner of laws. i’m sure you commit violations you don’t even know about. and i hope they hunt you down and prosecute you to the fullest extent of the law.

  13. You really are clueless about business, aren’t you? LATimes.com has its own ads and its own sales and other staff, its own P&L (if you need to know what that is, look it up). The records you steal do not — they were a product of another business that does not have a web counterpart.

    As for MySpace bands, that’s great if they want to follow a web-first business model. It’s a very cool part of music these days. But that’s not what we’re talking about. We’re talking about traditional record deals that create songs and CDs that you pirate because you don’t like their business model. By your logic, anyone should be able to just take the product of whatever work you do and pass it out to their friends without paying you for your production. Or anyone can take your car or your stuff — without compensation. Pirating is wrong the way the rules are written. Period.

  14. ah ah ah lee, you accuse me of bad analogies, and then you go back to stealing a car is like downloading music or a movie –

    i am deprived of my car if someone takes it from me. no one is deprived of an album or movie if someone downloads it. that’s a huge difference. intellectual property is not actually property….it’s something different. and as people gain more access to information, those companies that see information as tangible property (which it isn’t) are going to have to start over and come up with a new business model.

    you don’t get to send something over airwaves or over a wire and say the person receiving it can’t have it. it’s absurd thinking. and time and time again, it’s shown that that attitude alienates customers and loses money. you can’t send my car over a wire.

    people have been copying tapes and recording songs off the radio for decades. the grateful dead allowed people to record and trade their shows and built one of the biggest followings of any band. they made money because of it, not in spite of it. they were ahead of the game, and now the rest of the industry is playing catch-up, and whining all the way.

    Apple has some of the most restrictive DRM with their itunes. they make money hand over fist. and what did Steve Jobs say last week? DRM won’t work. It’s time to abandon it. because they’ll make more money without it, and he knows it.

  15. I don’t understand the idea of “Someday the laws and the movie/music/entertainment business have to change, so I’m going to go ahead and break the current laws now.”

    The LAtimes.com is free on purpose, so you are not stealing it if you “download it”.

  16. Ethically-speaking, there is simply no difference between copying a friend’s mp3 and taping a friend’s cd. The difference is in distribution and quality of the “copy”: whereas before, with cds and tapes, the amount of copying was restricted to one’s local network of friends (and the physical act of copying each one), now we have them internets, which makes a file available to the world, infinitely duplicable at the same quality of the “original”. This, believe it or not, is technological progress, and pretty fucking awesome. The pitiful entertainment industry, however, thinks otherwise: it was already shitting bricks in the 80’s, comparing VCRs to the Boston strangler–well, they hadn’t seen nuthin yet.

    We’ve entered a new world of intellectual “property”, where the line between producers, distributors, and consumers is blurred (it always was–this just makes it more obvious), and we all are working to construct a new model of exchange. Some going into it in denial, kicking and screaming (e.g., MPAA/RIAA), but it’s happening all the same. The big difference this time is that “consumers” are players, and will have a large say in how this model takes shape.

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