Comments on: Vote Yes on H and Help Open the Door http://blogging.la/2006/11/06/vote-yes-on-h-and-help-open-the-door/ Lizard people dude. Seriously. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:54:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Damien Goodmon http://blogging.la/2006/11/06/vote-yes-on-h-and-help-open-the-door/comment-page-1/#comment-10892 Damien Goodmon Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:49:36 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/2006/11/06/vote-yes-on-h-and-help-open-the-door/#comment-10892 H is the one measure on the ballot I've yet to decide upon. I would have little problem supporting this proposition if I knew that the billion dollars would be used as efficently as possible (read: help more people in need), because it was a part of a comprehensive and detailed strategy to deal with our affordable housing crisis. H is the one measure on the ballot I’ve yet to decide upon. I would have little problem supporting this proposition if I knew that the billion dollars would be used as efficently as possible (read: help more people in need), because it was a part of a comprehensive and detailed strategy to deal with our affordable housing crisis.

]]> By: joseph http://blogging.la/2006/11/06/vote-yes-on-h-and-help-open-the-door/comment-page-1/#comment-10891 joseph Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:06:11 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/2006/11/06/vote-yes-on-h-and-help-open-the-door/#comment-10891 First off, this measure should have been called a tax. It's a direct property tax. Secondly, would you like a visual on how much impact on the homeless this billion dollar tax will have? There's one <a href="http://martinirepublic.com/la" rel="nofollow">here.</a> The impact it would have on prospective homeowners is far far worse--less than one in a thousand will be helped by this bond. But lots of large developers will be helped by it. Thirdly, we have no real way of measuring progress in homelessness nor in affordable housing, because the City's Housing Department doesn't keep meaningful stats on rental units in the City, and there are no honest stats on the homeless either. Finally---if this bond built properties that actually enriched communities---wouldn't that <i>raise</i> property values? And thereby make housing for most even <i>less</i> affordable? First off, this measure should have been called a tax. It’s a direct property tax.

Secondly, would you like a visual on how much impact on the homeless this billion dollar tax will have? There’s one here. The impact it would have on prospective homeowners is far far worse–less than one in a thousand will be helped by this bond. But lots of large developers will be helped by it.

Thirdly, we have no real way of measuring progress in homelessness nor in affordable housing, because the City’s Housing Department doesn’t keep meaningful stats on rental units in the City, and there are no honest stats on the homeless either.

Finally—if this bond built properties that actually enriched communities—wouldn’t that raise property values? And thereby make housing for most even less affordable?

]]> By: Michael #1 http://blogging.la/2006/11/06/vote-yes-on-h-and-help-open-the-door/comment-page-1/#comment-10890 Michael #1 Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:58:50 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/2006/11/06/vote-yes-on-h-and-help-open-the-door/#comment-10890 I call it waste because they'll spend 999 million doing studies, having meetings, going on trips, having more meetings, doing more studies about meetings, going on trips to have meetings about studies and then the cost of the housing will have gone up so they'll have another meeting to decide on a trip for where the meeting should take place to decide on how many more billions they'll need to build the first billion dollars worth of housing. Sound familiar? Our tax dollars hard at work. I call it waste because they’ll spend 999 million doing studies, having meetings, going on trips, having more meetings, doing more studies about meetings, going on trips to have meetings about studies and then the cost of the housing will have gone up so they’ll have another meeting to decide on a trip for where the meeting should take place to decide on how many more billions they’ll need to build the first billion dollars worth of housing.

Sound familiar? Our tax dollars hard at work.

]]> By: Deena http://blogging.la/2006/11/06/vote-yes-on-h-and-help-open-the-door/comment-page-1/#comment-10889 Deena Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:06:33 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/2006/11/06/vote-yes-on-h-and-help-open-the-door/#comment-10889 I'm just afraid that the council's thoroughly devious behavior regarding that OTHER proposition will kill any chances of meeting the high bar needed for H to pass. The irony of ironies would be if Prop R manages to pass by a hair's breadth while H goes down because the extra votes needed were lost in the sleazy campaign to extend term limits. What a shame. I’m just afraid that the council’s thoroughly devious behavior regarding that OTHER proposition will kill any chances of meeting the high bar needed for H to pass.

The irony of ironies would be if Prop R manages to pass by a hair’s breadth while H goes down because the extra votes needed were lost in the sleazy campaign to extend term limits. What a shame.

]]> By: lee http://blogging.la/2006/11/06/vote-yes-on-h-and-help-open-the-door/comment-page-1/#comment-10888 lee Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:10:23 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/2006/11/06/vote-yes-on-h-and-help-open-the-door/#comment-10888 H is a joke. It's not a plan. It's the city saying "give us a billion dollars and we'll spend it for you -- trust us, you'll love it." Where exactly do you plan to put these units that's not in the suburbas? On a barge in the Pacific off Venice Beach? On a platform over the Hollywood Freeway? In place of a few thousand single family homes in Compton? LA needs affordable housing, but come up with a plan -- I'll help -- put a price tag on it, then we'll vote on it. H is a joke. It’s not a plan. It’s the city saying “give us a billion dollars and we’ll spend it for you — trust us, you’ll love it.” Where exactly do you plan to put these units that’s not in the suburbas? On a barge in the Pacific off Venice Beach? On a platform over the Hollywood Freeway? In place of a few thousand single family homes in Compton? LA needs affordable housing, but come up with a plan — I’ll help — put a price tag on it, then we’ll vote on it.

]]> By: 5000! http://blogging.la/2006/11/06/vote-yes-on-h-and-help-open-the-door/comment-page-1/#comment-10887 5000! Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:32:01 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/2006/11/06/vote-yes-on-h-and-help-open-the-door/#comment-10887 <i>Just say NO to more government waste.</i> I'm always happy to vote no on wasteful spending, but we're going to have to disagree on whether or not this one counts as "waste." Just say NO to more government waste.

I’m always happy to vote no on wasteful spending, but we’re going to have to disagree on whether or not this one counts as “waste.”

]]> By: Alex http://blogging.la/2006/11/06/vote-yes-on-h-and-help-open-the-door/comment-page-1/#comment-10886 Alex Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:55:07 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/2006/11/06/vote-yes-on-h-and-help-open-the-door/#comment-10886 While I fully support Mr. Garcetti's position amd the proposed Proposition I fail to understand how LA City Council members can get something like this so right, and completely whiff on the local ordinance that faces them this week. For those not aware the ordinance would require that any "rent control" apartments that are demolished to build new developments would then have to be "rent control" in the new project. The fallacy is that the developer is allowed to set all the new units at full market rent- it is only as the new project moves forward that the units remain in rent control. This is another example of the City not understanding how development works and what the drivers are behind it. While I fully support Mr. Garcetti’s position amd the proposed Proposition I fail to understand how LA City Council members can get something like this so right, and completely whiff on the local ordinance that faces them this week. For those not aware the ordinance would require that any “rent control” apartments that are demolished to build new developments would then have to be “rent control” in the new project. The fallacy is that the developer is allowed to set all the new units at full market rent- it is only as the new project moves forward that the units remain in rent control. This is another example of the City not understanding how development works and what the drivers are behind it.

]]> By: Osc http://blogging.la/2006/11/06/vote-yes-on-h-and-help-open-the-door/comment-page-1/#comment-10885 Osc Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:54:48 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/2006/11/06/vote-yes-on-h-and-help-open-the-door/#comment-10885 I shall vote yes on it. I shall vote yes on it.

]]> By: Michael #1 http://blogging.la/2006/11/06/vote-yes-on-h-and-help-open-the-door/comment-page-1/#comment-10884 Michael #1 Mon, 06 Nov 2006 12:02:27 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/2006/11/06/vote-yes-on-h-and-help-open-the-door/#comment-10884 Just say NO to more government waste. Just say NO to more government waste.

]]> By: Michael #1 http://blogging.la/2006/11/06/vote-yes-on-h-and-help-open-the-door/comment-page-1/#comment-10883 Michael #1 Mon, 06 Nov 2006 12:00:19 +0000 http://la.metblogs.com/2006/11/06/vote-yes-on-h-and-help-open-the-door/#comment-10883 Hell the state is already drowning in red ink so why not blow another billion. Heck, we don't have to pay for it, we'll float a bond and raise taxes. Hell the state is already drowning in red ink so why not blow another billion. Heck, we don’t have to pay for it, we’ll float a bond and raise taxes.

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