Suggestions for Sunset Junction

Earlier I complained about the disregard for the locals that comes with Sunset Junction and Cybele just made an amazing comment full of suggestions so I thought it deserved it’s own post so as not to be overlooked. Her list:

1. Publicize ways to get to the street fair. The biggest complaint locals have is the parking congestion and drunk folks puking on their front lawns. That means put a page or links on their webspace that shows good places to park (hell, even arrange some distant lots and shuttles) as well as info on public transportation options.

2. Be more transparent about where that $10 “donation” goes.

3. Be more conscientious about the neighbors and their desire for peace and quiet – this means figuring out a way to set up and break down the fair with a minimum of noise and interruption.

4. Communicate more with the people in the neighborhood. Inform them of street closure hours ahead of time.

5. Put up a map of the festival – where are the entrances/exits? What are the rules? If you’re going to hassle people about pets or cameras or strollers – please put it on the website. If you require ID for folks to drink or go near the places where alcohol is sold, make sure people know that. Some of us think that we look old enough to drink and even if we’re not buying we should be able to stand next to someone who is.

17 thoughts on “Suggestions for Sunset Junction”

  1. I came up from San Pedro on Sunday, and I had a great time. I took the 446 bus to Pershing Metro station, jumped on the Red Line to Sunset/Vermont, and walked an easy half mile down Sunset to the entrance. No parking hassle, no parking fees, no $3/gallon gas. Easy, and fun, like going to a street fair should be.

    But then, I’m neither a typical lazy, obese, car-dependent American nor a sniveler who lives in a neighborhood for a year and complains about something that’s been going on in the area for twenty years as though it’s an imposition on him/her.

    Just something to think about, for what it’s worth. And yes, the website and advertisements could be much better.

  2. “a sniveler who lives in a neighborhood for a year and complains about something that’s been going on in the area for twenty years as though it’s an imposition on him/her.”

    exactly, that is the problem with silverlake these days, yuppies w/ mini coopers move here and pay 2000$ rent for a one bedroom and they think they own the place.

  3. IMBG – I don’t know how much you read this blog, but I’ve lived in Silverlake since 1993. However, I don’t think that means that I have any greater entitlement to the “True Silverlake” than any other resident. We don’t get points for length or residency and neither do we need to be complacent about those things which make our neighborhood less liveable.

    I’m not sure why I’m responding, as it seems that neither or you are willing to post anything close to a realworld name, email or link.

  4. This whole senority thing has me laughing. It’s not even as if LA is a city of natives. What does it matter if someone lived in an area for 10 minutes or 25 years – the fair is still an inconvenience and should respect all neighbors.

  5. Why the complaint about the $10 cover? That’s a heck of a lot cheaper than most shows cost these days, and you get to see multiple bands, hear djs, enjoy the sights and shops of Sunset on foot, without crazy traffic, etc. I think it’s a bargain compared to most music festivals these days.

    While I don’t disagree that a large part of the crowd fits the “hipster” definition (who knew short shorts and cowboy boots would ever be a trend?), as an attendee in run-of-the-mill khaki capris and a tee shirt I certainly felt comfortable, and saw quite a few others fitting many diverse descriptions other than hipster.

    I’m sure many improvements could be made to how the fair is carried out, but I strongly disagree Caryn’s comment above “the fair is still an inconvenience”–for me, it’s just one of the many reasons I think I live in the best neighborhood in LA!

  6. Erin, personally I wouldn’t object to the cover if — as Cybele suggests — there is greater openness about it. It’s been called a “donation” in the past (perhaps this year was the first I finally heard it called a “fee”), and it’s not really clear what I’m donating to or why it went up three bucks from last year. And for being a so-called donation the gatekeepers use some pretty tough tactics that make it seem hardly as if attendees have an option not to give. I say either call it what it is, a fee or a cover and get off this “donation” kick unless the event organizers are willing to crack open their books and tell me what my money is supporting.

  7. Thanks for the catch, Benjamin. Got my years mixed up. It was $7 bucks to enter in 2003.

    …But am I the only one who sees the irony of all these whiners whining about whining? Or maybe we can whine about the whiners whining about the whining and then whine about the whining the whiners are doing whining about the whiners.


    Who’s up for Yahtzee?!

  8. Boner sucks, thereís no doubt about it. My favorite is when someone posts something he doesnít like and then he calls out all the names theyíve used in some sort of lame effort to undermine their opinion. Sorry, Boner, Sexplace may revolve around your large and very fragile ego, but the world doesnít.

  9. I love living in Silver Lake – in fact I never want to live anywhere else in LA but come on, you can’t tell me that the Sunset Junction fair isn’t an inconvenience. The reality is, not everyone is Silver Lake is the same so the fair doesn’t attract the whole neighborhood. One of the things I love about my street is the fact that it is quiet and, well, when the fair comes around I lose a lot of that. Call me a whiner but people can have a difference of opinion. I know that’s a shocker. Of course, if X was placing again this year then I’d be a lot happier but the New York Dolls and Chaka Chan…yeah right.

    As for this continously hilarious (and cowardly anonymous) person who keeps referring to my gallery as “sexplace” – you don’t have the slightest clue.

  10. >God forbid you go try mingle with common people or, i dunno,
    >go to the beach or something.

    Where the hell do comments like this come from? Are you seriously holding up an example of elitism in Los Angeles? I’m really going to take that seriously. NOT. I guess you’ve missed all those posts about really glammy, fabulous things like grocery stores and, um, GOING TO THE FUCKING BEACH.

    >You’ve got a goddamned LA BLOG and maybe ONE of you actually went

    Yeah, good point. It’s a blog about Los Angeles, which is a city of 12 million people that doesn’t revolve around Silverlake. So who says any certain percentage of us has to go to Sunset Junction, and/or like it? In fact, maybe those of you that don’t live two blocks from the festival should appreciate the opportunity to read the first hand experience of somebody that does and has to live through the whole experience.

    I know that I shouldn’t feed the trolls, but would some of you please, please come to a meetup and try to intelligently argue these bullshit comments with me? My guess is no, because then you don’t get to make up a smarmy bullshit name and fake email address to hide behind (not you Benjamin, because at least you have the guts to use a real name and email address). If you’ve really got so much to say about our content and you’re supposedly not just a whiny, pussy-ass complainer then I’m more than happy to debate it with any of you in person.

  11. –As for this continously hilarious (and cowardly anonymous) person who keeps referring to my gallery as “sexplace” – you don’t have the slightest clue.–

    Youíre right, I donít have the slightest clue. Kick me down some tickets and maybe Iíll check it out.

  12. I live in the neighborhood, enjoyed the festival and laughed off the temporary annoyances.

    My suggestion is to open up the parking lots of the schools and local parks in the area. hire a valet company to manage them and charge people. maybe that can take the pressure off the street parking.

    can anyone speak about the financial benefits of the festival to the neighborhood (if any)?

    and stop calling it a ‘donation’

  13. So I woke up in Silver Lake this morning and this fucking bright ass thing rose up in the sky. In the goddam EAST. This shit’s gotta stop. And quit calling it a sunrise!

  14. Clearly it’s going to be one of those days, this morning I walked from my Silver Lake bedroom into my Silver Lake bathroom and into the Silver Lake little room in the bathroom with the glass door and started playing with the little handle things sticking out of the wall and goddamn if water didn’t start pouring right on my fucking head!

  15. >Also, in a city of 12 million, y’know what i’m interested in? hearing about events, not how
    >annoying it is to live a few blocks away from them. It’d be like if every time there was a dodger
    >game some douchebag in echo park complained about how there was traffic. c’mon. . .you
    >guys can do better.

    I understand the points you’re trying to make. What I’m trying to make clear is that we get comments all the time to the effect of “This blog sucks because you only write about X. You need to be writing more about Y.” You all want the blog to be about what YOU want it to be about. But there are 22 contributors and no editorial policy. Chances are you’re not going to like every post or author. Somewhere out there there’s a reader who DOES want to hear how those things affect people’s lives. And there’s also a reader that doesn’t want to hear anything at all about events, they just want politics. Get where I’m going here?

    I fucking hate baseball. You know what I do when people post about baseball? I ignore it.

    >Hm. . .while i’m not much for meeting up (unless you really do promise to feed me, in which case i’ll >consider it). . .you’re welcome to email me. i may’ve been a bit irritated and inflammatory, but i think i’ve >got pretty valid points.

    Thanks for the offer. I was really referring more to the people that hide behind anonymity to say boneheaded or offensive things instead of having a debate. Whether or not I agree with them, I always appreciate readers who are willing to stand up for what they say.

  16. Also, forgot to address this:

    >How many authors live in Silver Lake or immediately adjacent? How many complained about the event?
    >How many actually went?

    I’m glad you asked. I don’t know where everybody lives (though probably not as many of them as you think live in Silver Lake) or who went, but it’s important to point out that the only two people that posted about Sunset Junction were Sean and Cybele. And Cybele’s posts could hardly be called complaining.

  17. Oh my gosh…people posting on the Internet using names other than those given them at birth? What next? WHAT NEXT?

    Here’s my idea to improve the parking situation, by the way: instead of giving people driving directions to the junction of Sunset and Santa Monica boulevards, simply publicize the fact that there is very little parking, and suggest that people investigate a little-known conveyance referred to by those few in-the-know as “the bus.” Point out that this “bus” contrivance will, if one knows what one is doing, drop one off at the entrance to a hidden underground portal known to initiates as the “Metro Red Line Subway,” which is capable of dropping one off about a half a mile away from the festival–which is about the same distance that one would have had to walk after driving to the junction of Sunset and Santa Monica, discovering that there’s no parking, driving around the neighborhood in a state of increasing frustration, and eventually squeezing into a dubiously tight parking spot halfway in the red and halfway into somebody’s driveway.

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