Comments on: UCLA rape trial jury hung

By: Jude

Jude — Wed, 21 Dec 2005 03:15:03 +0000

As a Sexual Assault Victim Advocate for seven years, it doesn’t surprise me the verdict. In the military we see alot of associate/date rapes, including ones similar to this. Society wants to believe that 3 men would not go into a womans room and rape her. The defense attorneys in this case play on “buyers remorse” if you will. A woman was brutally raped, by three men. We shrug our shoulders, find any excuse to let them off, and pat ourselves on the back for what a just society we are. I firmly believe, if you are raped, if you want justice you better “look” like you got raped. Of course, any sensible person would know that if three people come into your room, resist to a degree, but ultimately if you can’t escape without being raped, at least try to get out with your life and limbs.

By: Jason

Jason — Sat, 09 Oct 2004 04:37:18 +0000

Just out of curiousity…why is the race card bringing brought up?? Does it matter the race of the defendents or the race of the victim? Karen is already calling these men “black monsters” as if their dark skin cognitively made them attack this girl. Why the race card people?! I agree that this case seems like an injustice. But Scott stated that she gave them fellatio and her phone number after the alleged attack. Explain that? But again I’m writing this post because of the racial implications. It’s already bad enough that there are few black males on campus as it is, and the ones that are, are now under a cloud of suspicion as if they’re on the prowl for sexual deviancy. So please people (I’m assuming that the posters are white/asian) please stick to the “event” and the evidence and leave race out of this…if you can’t then please visit http://www.stormfront.org for potential recruitment. Have a good day everyone.
-Jason

By: Lisa

Lisa — Mon, 27 Sep 2004 05:23:31 +0000

Karen, you need to get the fuck off this board, you ignorant femi-nazi. Males are not a huge woman-hating fraternity. Most of them want to meet a normal girlfriend or wife, and most of them despise rape. And you are an idiot.

By: richard

richard — Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:48:53 +0000

All graduates of college and grad/professional schools:

Haven’t you noticed that whenever you make the jury panel the defense always objects to your being on the jury? Former DAs and ADAs tell me that the defense wants 12 idiotic people to make stupid assumptions about situations, much like how rape victims are suppose to act in this case. Hence, there is a common joke that denfese attorneys want “12 people too stupid to get out of jury duty.” Scott, have you read the studies of how rape victims acted yet? I kept my end of the bargain by reading laws.

By: Jason

Jason — Sun, 15 Aug 2004 00:09:24 +0000

I am a doctor and I have treated women patients who had been victims of sexual assaults. I have been intrigued by the development of this trial, and am frankly amazed by how this one juror, Scott, is “still struggling” with his vote while trying to stand tall with self-serving rationalization. It doesn’t matter how much pride he’d like to have and how dignified he tries to look, when a juror makes a poor choice and propogates injustice, he knows it, and we know it.

Is there reasonable doubt that the woman was raped ? How does that weigh against the reasonable doubt that the woman wasn’t raped ? The answer is that there is overwhelming reasonable doubt that she was raped than there is reasonable doubt that she wasn’t. This is the case to most sane and reasonable minds.

If there is overwhelming probability that these three men committed a heinous crime against a woman, then what is the public duty of the jury to not to let them go free ? My opinion is that, even if there is any, any reasonable doubt that these men committed the crime, the jury should not hand down a verdict that says, “you are free to go”. While it is one thing to say, “we don’t know if you are 100% guilty”, it is quite another to say “even though we know that there is a much greater reasonable doubt that you are guilty, we are going to rescue you poor sexual assault suspects and release you into the society”. By being poorly informed and rely completely on a lay understanding of what criteria warrants acquittal, such jury propogates injustice and is a menace to law abidding citizens everywhere.

By: Friends_of_Jane_Doe

Friends_of_Jane_Doe — Mon, 09 Aug 2004 14:36:28 +0000

She is not foreign. She is Asian American.

By: UCLA_STUDENT

UCLA_STUDENT — Fri, 06 Aug 2004 08:22:44 +0000

Unbelievable. Why wasn’t this information released if it’s true? A foreign Taiwanese student who does not understand American society is on a different level than an American girl. It also explains why she studied and finished her paper after the rape. Asian culture is so big on grades that some students commit suicide over grades. These things affect culture and perception. I can completely understand that now, considering that I also am Asian, although American. Had I been in the same situation, I do not doubt that I would have tried to finish my paper as well. These boys went to school at Carson HS with a high population of Asian girls. I’m sure that they know exactly what they were doing when they committed their alleged crime.

By: Richard

Richard — Thu, 05 Aug 2004 04:44:36 +0000

“With her being a tawinese girl who is not familiar with american culture and society I surely doubt these football players didn’t include typical “asian female” stigma stereotype when they raped her.”

I got that off a ucla guy’s website.

By: Karen

Karen — Mon, 02 Aug 2004 06:38:55 +0000

There exists a double standard when women are victims of crimes perpetrated by men.

They are not allowed to be caleld victims.

They are on trial.

Their behavior and state of mind is impugned, scrutinized and weighted.

The suspects are not treated as suspects and the defense, not the prosecution has to prove it’s case.

If the woman victim is not a 90 year old virgin nun she is the suspect.

Unbeleivable that these Black rapists walked.

What race was the victim?

By: Karen

Karen — Mon, 02 Aug 2004 05:19:24 +0000

These three Black monsters straight up walked in a girl’s dorm who was studying , repeatedly sexually assualted her, left and now the jury walks them.

It’s a free for all mysogynist society against women.

No one, no one I repeat no one calls a robbery victim an “alleged victim”.

Why are rape victims the only category of alleged victims?

Because of the hatred for women in our society.

All women are in grave danger in this society.